In State Basketball talent

[sweetwater]

Russ Millard was in the same class as Hoiberg, et al.

[brokenloginagain]

its one of the strange aspects of isu hoops history - we don't get much in-state. the only time was the hoiberg/meyer/beechum teams, which got us 3 ncaa's and zero sweet 16s. horner, haluska, brunner got 2 ncaa's and zero wins.

how crazy would it be if the state produced 7 nba players (in the past 20 years) and zero went to iowa or iowa state (lafrenz, hinrich, collison, korver, barnes, paige, woodbury).

(yes i realize nba may be a stretch for paige and woodbury).

[all2matt]

Woodbury has an offer from North Carolina...

man that must suck for UNC to have them fall so far they can only get mid-major talent

[Clones85']

Paige not so much, but the rest of that group is all mid-major talent IMO.

Come on now. Woodbury is a legit talent, especially on the right team. They don't just grow 7 footers that can finish with either hand on trees. Abrahamson, Gesell, and others are high major players on the right team with surrounding parts as well. See Bohanon.

How does Gessel keep getting tossed in with Iowa? The kid lives in Nebraska.

Where does he play HS ball? AAU ball? He's an Iowa kid for all purposes.

[Cyclonefarmer]

We've got to look at it statistically also (not talking about player stats). What is the population of "kids" in age brackets-like say 16-18-compared to more populous areas. If you're a state or region with more kids available in a certain age range compared to another state or region the odds are you'll have more players of a high caliber to draw from. There is ,of course, some outside factors that skew that a little. For example, if you're an athlete from a major FB area you may be playing FB and not even interested in BB or wrestling. But I think a lot of it is to some degree based simply on numbers of kids and the thus the odds of how many "star" athletes a state or region theoretically will produce.

[CYphyllis]

Come on now. Woodbury is a legit talent, especially on the right team. They don't just grow 7 footers that can finish with either hand on trees. Abrahamson, Gesell, and others are high major players on the right team with surrounding parts as well. See Bohanon.



Where does he play HS ball? AAU ball? He's an Iowa kid for all purposes.

Growing up I played the majority of my soccer/basketball games in Illinois, but my address had IA in it. Strangely enough, I was considered a resident of the state of Iowa. Truly wierd how that works, I know.

[brokenloginagain]

i'm 100% confident hoiberg will go after any top iowa players that make sense for us. we didn't get uthoff, or paige. abrahamson apparently had an offer, but you didn't hear much about him. and gesell wasn't "our type" (I assume we liked okoro much better).

the best part about hoiberg is that we won't waste time with kids who either aren't good enough, or are lifetime hawkeye fans.

[Clones85']

Growing up I played the majority of my soccer/basketball games in Illinois, but my address had IA in it. Strangely enough, I was considered a resident of the state of Iowa. Truly wierd how that works, I know.

Majority? I'm guessing you went to a HS in Iowa though right? That's the point? If you played in Iowa, you are going to count as an Iowa kid.

And if you played basketball for Rock Island HS but lived in Davenport, people would consider you an Illinois kid

[Senolcyc]

It's a great class. Just none are going to ISU.

[ribsnwhiskey]

man that must suck for UNC to have them fall so far they can only get mid-major talent

And if he goes there, Iowa didn't really want him did they?

[BlackHawk]

Paige not so much, but the rest of that group is all mid-major talent IMO.

Is this some sort of shortcut to thinking? Woodbury has been BLOWING everyone up he's played against lately. You don't get MVP of some of the camps he's attended and be a "mid-major talent". Sounds like sour grapes.

[CYphyllis]

Is this some sort of shortcut to thinking? Woodbury has been BLOWING everyone up he's played against lately. You don't get MVP of some of the camps he's attended and be a "mid-major talent". Sounds like sour grapes.

Inconsistently "BLOWING" up is what I think you mean. He had a good camp, but had some poor performances in some tournaments.

I have no idea if the kid is going to be good or not, to be honest I don't really care.

[BlackHawk]

Inconsistently "BLOWING" up is what I think you mean. He had a good camp, but had some poor performances in some tournaments.

I have no idea if the kid is going to be good or not, to be honest I don't really care.

I imagine you're correct. That's probably why he continues to move up in the rankings and garner offers from top schools. Just hate it when someone tries to downplay another's legit talent simply b/c we don't have a shot at him.

[bostrem00]

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Just not Georges Niang's team! Check it! Boom!

[nickcyv]

Is this some sort of shortcut to thinking? Woodbury has been BLOWING everyone up he's played against lately. You don't get MVP of some of the camps he's attended and be a "mid-major talent". Sounds like sour grapes.

You should go look at the stats. In the Peach Jam he was largely shutdown. Not saying Woodbury is not going to be a great player. I just have my doubts that that he is going to be dominant the second he steps on campus.

Its not sour grapes, I would welcome Woodbury at ISU.