Tinsley

**imnclone** · 11-02-2011, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Cloned4Life

In reply to ZJohnson... The whole team was playing like **** and on fumes for 3 weeks prior to that game... If Jamaal alone blew that game then he is somehow a genius and magican to make his entire team miss shots and rebound for several consecutive games. And the missed layup? It missed by a millimeter. Again, must be a magician...

This is correct. The concept of him throwing the game is stupid. He could have left ISU the year earlier to be a first round nba draft pick. Also, he only hurt his draft position with that game and the end of year collapse.

Tinsley carried that team way above where they should have been. They collapsed back to earth their last three games. The tank was empty.

The guy was an amazing player for ISU.

**crooksie_26** · 11-02-2011, 07:58 AM

I do remember switching to I think ESPN and on the bottom line right after the loss it was saying something about a investigation into the ISU - Hampton game in regards to point-shaving...Nothing ever came from it, but I know I saw it....

**isuno1fan** · 11-02-2011, 08:06 AM

That team was not a good team anymore by the time we got to the NCAAs. Had played like **** for 2-3 weeks prior to that. Lucky we were able to hold on and with the B12.

**Clonefan32** · 11-02-2011, 08:14 AM

I've also heard something similar, who knows if it is true but the rumor is definitely out there.

**cmoore_23** · 11-02-2011, 08:38 AM

past is the past.. he was an amazing cyclone.. and would love to be able to watch him again

**Rural** · 11-02-2011, 08:52 AM

Ronnie Harmon however................

**cykadelic2** · 11-02-2011, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

Not saying I believe any of this stuff. But I'm sure we were at least ten point favorites in that game, so by the time he shot the lay up, whether he made it or not would have been inconsequential, Hampton would have already covered.

Correct and that is why anyone here suggesting that Tinsley threw that game is a ****** idiot.

**HILLCYD** · 11-02-2011, 09:10 AM

Is it true...who knows. Would I be the least bit surprised? Hell no.

**Clonefan32** · 11-02-2011, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by cykadelic2

Correct and that is why anyone here suggesting that Tinsley threw that game is a ****** idiot.

It is possible to bet the money line and not the spread...

**Cyhart** · 11-02-2011, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by cyclone87

i know he made a lot of mistakes, but dude was sure fun to watch play when he was here at ISU. Some of the things he did made me think I was watching a Harlem Globtrotters game.

This.
He would dribble between defender's legs and make unbelievable no-look passes to Fizer on the block. I absolutely loved watching him play.

**cykadelic2** · 11-02-2011, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

It is possible to bet the money line and not the spread...

Possible, yes, but the whole damn team would have had to be in on it then. Nobody played worth a damn that night and LE didn't coach worth a damn that night.

LE burnt that team out during the regular season but they had a whole week after the Baylor loss in the B12 tourney to recover and they still couldn't do it.

**Clonefan32** · 11-02-2011, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by cykadelic2

Possible, yes, but the whole damn team would have had to be in on it then. Nobody played worth a damn that night and LE didn't coach worth a damn that night.

LE burnt that team out during the regular season but they had a whole week after the Baylor loss in the B12 tourney to recover and they still couldn't do it.

All good points. And not to say Tinsley did anything wrong either, but if there is one player in Iowa State history whose play could take down the whole team it would be him. Tinsley made that team what it was.

**Cydkar** · 11-02-2011, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by ZJohnson

Mother****er got paid a **** ton of money after that game, and it wasn't from the NBA.

fail

**Cydkar** · 11-02-2011, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

It is possible to bet the money line and not the spread...

True but it makes no sense to make a big moneyline bet and hope one player can unobviously throw a game against a clearly inferior opponenet. Keeping a game from being a blowout and actually throwing a game are 2 completely different animals.

JT didn't miss all of the free throws so if the game was fixed JT wasn't the lone gunman.

**The_Architect** · 11-02-2011, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by ZJohnson

Mother****er got paid a **** ton of money after that game, and it wasn't from the NBA.

Total ********.

That entire team was spent. They played way above their heads that season and their lack of talent and quality depth caught up to them. They were exposed in a road loss to Texas and were shaky from then on. They lost to Baylor in their first game of the Big 12 tournament.