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    Re: Ejim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psiclone View Post
    I think all of the shooters have a green light to shoot. Having said that, it was incumbent on Fred to emphasize that he wanted to work the ball and get it into the hands of the shooters, as well as working the ball to get it inside to White. Learning pains for the players and the coaches.
    Absolutely. It will get better as the year goes on. Hoiberg needs to sit the team down in the film room and watch the movie Hoosiers. Coach Dale could teach these guys a thing or two.

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    Offensively, teams still needs to gel and sometimes you just have those nights.
    Defensively, now that is another story. Effort, communication, & execution have to improve greatly here.
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    Re: Ejim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    These are the growing pains that this team needs to work through. We have a ton of talent on the team this year. Watching the game last night it was almost as if guys thought each time they touched the ball it might be their last opportunity to get their name in the stat sheet. Ejim threw up a crap shot every time he touched the ball going 1-7 from right under the basket, Royce would dribble the ball up the floor and 98% of the time just decided to try and go 1 on 1... there is a reason every single foul he committed was a charging foul. Allen was firing up ill advised 3's early in the shot clock rather then working the ball around going 0-7 from deep, and poor Scotty C. was trying to work the ball around so much that he never had a chance to shoot the ball himself getting off only two 3-point attempts.

    Memo to Iowa State Basketball players... T-E-A-M. That is the only thing that matters. When you have a couple guys with a hot hand you work to get them open and get them the ball... aka... pass the ball to McGee and Babb. They went a combined 6 of 8 from deep and those 2 combined only took 10 shots the entire game while Chris Allen fired off 13 shots making only 2 and going 0-7 from 3. Looked like FAR too much of the "I'll keep shooting because I have to get mine" attitude last night.
    At least they did not come on court with shirts saying "Stats R Us." Bobby Knight would make them make 4 passes before they could take a shot. Scotty's entry passes were blocked, tipped, or touched numerous times. He forgot to bounce pass the entry pass.


    Fun times are over. We can only afford one loss non conference (like last year) if we only play .500 ball in conference and hope to get to a tournament. Fred needs to spell out to his players what he will allow his team do. Can we borrow Lutz for a couple of games? The switching defense always ended up with the weak link under the basket. Guess that shoots that defensive plan down for most games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    At least they did not come on court with shirts saying "Stats R Us." Bobby Knight would make them make 4 passes before they could take a shot. Scotty's entry passes were blockers, tipped, touched numerous times. He forgets to bounce pass the entry pass.


    Fun times are over. We can only afford one loss non conference (like last year) if we only play .500 ball in conference and hope to get to a tournament. Fred needs to spell out to his players what he will allow his team do. Can we borrow Lutz for a couple of games? The switching defense always ended up with the weak link under the basket. Guess that shoots that defensive plan down for most games.
    We can and will lose to Michigan. I suggest that this team doesn't lose any more than that.
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    Re: Ejim?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigLame View Post
    Offensively, teams still needs to gel and sometimes you just have those nights.
    Defensively, now that is another story. Effort, communication, & execution have to improve greatly here.
    My thoughts exactly. Even when the team gels offensively there will be nights when the shots aren't falling but the defensive effort and performance should always be there to help you when the shots aren't falling. Last nights defensive performance was really bad, players and coaching.
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    Re: Ejim?

    Ejim will never be a consistent Big XII player. Last year, he inflated his stats against inferior competition that couldn't match up with his athleticism (much like the exhibition). He is a garbage man around the basket. The problem is he doesn't know how to finish. Sometimes he seems to forget he can jump down there. Instead of rising up and either getting fouled or slamming it home, he prefers to play under the rim and try to shoot it in.

    If he doesn't get off to a good start, you can pretty much count on him being completely worthless. He could be a hell of a player if he learned to finish and understood the team game (something all of our guys need to understand).
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    Re: Ejim?

    Quote Originally Posted by jahfg View Post
    Ejim will never be a consistent Big XII player. Last year, he inflated his stats against inferior competition that couldn't match up with his athleticism (much like the exhibition). He is a garbage man around the basket. The problem is he doesn't know how to finish. Sometimes he seems to forget he can jump down there. Instead of rising up and either getting fouled or slamming it home, he prefers to play under the rim and try to shoot it in.

    If he doesn't get off to a good start, you can pretty much count on him being completely worthless. He could be a hell of a player if he learned to finish and understood the team game (something all of our guys need to understand).
    i disagree. he had plenty of very good games for a rookie in the b12 last season.

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    Re: Ejim?

    Quote Originally Posted by jahfg View Post
    He is a garbage man around the basket. The problem is he doesn't know how to finish.
    To further complicate matters, I think this problem extends to some others as well. Too many guys trying to finesse it in the hoop instead of taking it strong...
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    Re: Ejim?

    Quote Originally Posted by jahfg View Post
    Ejim will never be a consistent Big XII player. Last year, he inflated his stats against inferior competition that couldn't match up with his athleticism (much like the exhibition). He is a garbage man around the basket. The problem is he doesn't know how to finish. Sometimes he seems to forget he can jump down there. Instead of rising up and either getting fouled or slamming it home, he prefers to play under the rim and try to shoot it in.

    If he doesn't get off to a good start, you can pretty much count on him being completely worthless. He could be a hell of a player if he learned to finish and understood the team game (something all of our guys need to understand).
    Wow! you couldn't be more off. I believe he averaged around 8 points and 6 rebounds a game in big 12 competition going against guys inside that were alot bigger than him. That is pretty good for a freshman in the big 12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rholtgraves View Post
    Wow! you couldn't be more off. I believe he averaged around 8 points and 6 rebounds a game in big 12 competition going against guys inside that were alot bigger than him. That is pretty good for a freshman in the big 12.
    Notice I said consistent Big XII player. He can have great games when he's focused and putting forth the effort. I think effort is a problem with him when he doesn't get off to a good start. When he plays bad, he plays REALLY BAD.

    He doesn't have the skill set to take any plays off. His production relies almost entirely on his effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jahfg View Post
    Notice I said consistent Big XII player. He can have great games when he's focused and putting forth the effort. I think effort is a problem with him when he doesn't get off to a good start. When he plays bad, he plays REALLY BAD.

    He doesn't have the skill set to take any plays off. His production relies almost entirely on his effort.
    so because ejim, as a freshman, didn't put up double doubles EVERY game, he will NEVER be a "consistent" b12 player? i disagree with that.

    ejim got off to a terrible start last year at KU, and ended up with 13 and 9. this idea that a bad start means he plays the entire game poorly? you're making things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jahfg View Post
    Ejim will never be a consistent Big XII player. Last year, he inflated his stats against inferior competition that couldn't match up with his athleticism (much like the exhibition). He is a garbage man around the basket. The problem is he doesn't know how to finish. Sometimes he seems to forget he can jump down there. Instead of rising up and either getting fouled or slamming it home, he prefers to play under the rim and try to shoot it in.

    If he doesn't get off to a good start, you can pretty much count on him being completely worthless. He could be a hell of a player if he learned to finish and understood the team game (something all of our guys need to understand).
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantacyclone View Post
    Seems like the team is missing DG this year. Too bad they can't get all of the pieces together at the same time.
    What? We don't need a PG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenloginagain View Post
    so because ejim, as a freshman, didn't put up double doubles EVERY game, he will NEVER be a "consistent" b12 player? i disagree with that.

    ejim got off to a terrible start last year at KU, and ended up with 13 and 9. this idea that a bad start means he plays the entire game poorly? you're making things up.
    I don't think Ejim will ever be a consistent Big XII player because he doesn't have the skill set. His skill set (or lack thereof) requires that he pick up the garbage. There will be games where he isn't able to do that, partly because of his effort, and partly because he just isn't that good.

    Remember how we always waited for Rashon Clark to improve his dribbling and he never did? He's Rashon Clark, but not as good or athletic.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see Ejim ever being more than a role player. He will have some great games, but he's nothing we can ever count on game in and game out.
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    Never?
    Never. He doesn't have the skills. I hope I'm wrong.
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