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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by jonnayspades09 why all the raily hate. all these people are trash talking him based on his performance in games last year. he played like 2 min per game last year hardly enough time to get into the flow of anything. i think he is just what this team needs,a big not so flashy player that just wants to get the ball in the hoop.most of these other opinions of him are baseless, i was hopeing to see more of him all last season and i hope he gets more playing time this year. He wasn't an All-American. Some have through-the-roof expectations right away, without the idea that freshmen can improve over their time in college.
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Re: Railey?
NCAA sanctioned tournaments are not a good place to figure out just how good a player can be, but they sure can tell you some limitations. Railey was very underwhelming in the summer league. I bet SW Minnesota State wouldn't trade Nick Smith (Johnston, IA) for Railey if they could. Coaches make recruiting mistakes, it happens.
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by jonnayspades09 why all the raily hate. all these people are trash talking him based on his performance in games last year. he played like 2 min per game last year hardly enough time to get into the flow of anything. i think he is just what this team needs,a big not so flashy player that just wants to get the ball in the hoop.most of these other opinions of him are baseless, i was hopeing to see more of him all last season and i hope he gets more playing time this year.
Agreed! I don't think he's better than Booker but he's the tallest of our bigs and he has some skills. It's silly to write him off based on his first year; bigs take time to develop. He'll be better than his freshman year, he'll get some minutes (maybe 10 a game?) and he'll help the team. I suspect the naysayers are negative because they think he's not our savior -- and on that we can all agree -- but he'll help.
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by Bubba Hubba Agreed! I don't think he's better than Booker but he's the tallest of our bigs and he has some skills. It's silly to write him off based on his first year; bigs take time to develop. He'll be better than his freshman year, he'll get some minutes (maybe 10 a game?) and he'll help the team. I suspect the naysayers are negative because they think he's not our savior -- and on that we can all agree -- but he'll help. I'll say he gets 20.
It's obvious already that White, Babb and Allen will play heavy minutes. Who gets the rest, to be determined.
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by rholtgraves It is a luxury not to have to play true freshman if they aren't ready. We haven't been able to do that in awhile. the team doesn't have to be 11 people deep. Playing 9 players which is what I think the rotation will be is plenty deep. The team just needs to gel.
The quotes below are relevant to most teams across the country this time of the year and it sounds eerily similar to our team. They were said by Bill Self after KU's recent loss:
"We’re not going to win a ton of games just by playing ‘take ’em.’ That’s not how we’ve ever done things. The ball has to move. The defense dictates who shoots it. We have to be patient enough to get Thomas (Robinson) a touch where he might have an angle. We just have to be patient,” Self added.
"We’ll get better at moving the ball. Guys ... we’ve been practicing for 3 1/2 weeks."
"We have to become one, and we are not one yet. I don’t know any team in the country that’s one this time of year. I think we can learn from it, and our guys will be better from it. It’s a long season in basketball."
Most teams playing lots of new players struggle this time of year. The key is too work hard and improve. That will determine how the season goes, not what has happened but the players and coaches respond. Bill self's opinions on basketball mean nothing
Last edited by cymaniac17; 11-18-2011 at 09:18 PM.
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Re: Railey?
he is as dumb as a box of rocks.
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by CycloneErik He wasn't an All-American. Some have through-the-roof expectations right away, without the idea that freshmen can improve over their time in college. That's actually a sadly common trend. Not sure if it's just high school kids who have never paid attention through a player's full career, or what. I love to watch kids go from flashes of potential to being a really good or even great player.
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by Cyclonepride That's actually a sadly common trend. Not sure if it's just high school kids who have never paid attention through a player's full career, or what. I love to watch kids go from flashes of potential to being a really good or even great player. I've seen it professionally in every job I've had. People expect the new guy to get everything when they walk in the door, because that's exactly how it worked for them, in their little dream world. You see it often with teachers wondering why students don't get something or an assignment or whatever, and they don't understand that you teach them first, then they understand.
It's all too normal, really.
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by Rural I'll say he gets 20.
It's obvious already that White, Babb and Allen will play heavy minutes. Who gets the rest, to be determined. I don't think he even played 20 minutes in the summer league. He needs to work on his conditioning
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by CycloneErik I've seen it professionally in every job I've had. People expect the new guy to get everything when they walk in the door, because that's exactly how it worked for them, in their little dream world. You see it often with teachers wondering why students don't get something or an assignment or whatever, and they don't understand that you teach them first, then they understand.
It's all too normal, really. Yep, and I forget that at times when I'm training people.
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by Hayes30 That is what I thought too. When I pointed out that we will miss Raileys post D and his toughness I was ridiculed. Now look who was right  Remember folks, Hayes has been wrong in the past also.
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Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by CycloneYoda Remember folks, Hayes has been wrong in the past also. Haha yes I have but I should get at least a c- on this one for effort -
Re: Railey?
 Originally Posted by Hayes30 Haha yes I have but I should get at least a c- on this one for effort  Not at all. We were never going to miss Railey, and won't in the future.
Glad J-Bone Capone is not wasting a scholarship anymore.
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