Burgason's barrage not enough to topple the Cyclones

**Clonefan32** · 12-22-2011, 12:07 PM

I have absolutely no problem with what Royce has done this year, but I still cringe every time he brings the ball up the floor.

**Ames** · 12-22-2011, 12:25 PM

White has huge huge potential, but based solely on what he has done so far he hasn't warranted all the hype.

**CyCloned** · 12-22-2011, 12:47 PM

White had a couple bad turnovers last night, but he also had 10-15 great passes, passes that should have turned into assists. His behind the back pass from the top of the key to the baseline for an open 3 pointer was as good a pass as ISU fans have seen since Tinsley played. One of White's TOs last night was when he tried to make a pass 3 feet from the basket to a guy uder the basket. The next time he was in that position it took the shot himself.

**tre** · 12-22-2011, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by InAWord

Listen GMac also thought Doug couldn't play for ISU. After watching him for a year and a half at Creighton I would argue otherwise...

I feel like GMac said that because he knew he wasn't going to be in Ames too much longer & didn't want Doug here if he was on his way out...JMO though.

**bellzisu** · 12-22-2011, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by tre

I feel like GMac said that because he knew he wasn't going to be in Ames too much longer & didn't want Doug here if he was on his way out...JMO though.

EXACTLY..... I was almost laughing last week when T&T was saying they missed on Doug McDermott. They didn't miss. GMac saw the writing on the wall that if he had another bad year or so that he would be **** canned.

**kingcy** · 12-22-2011, 01:26 PM

White has talent. It just seems he doesnt want to get down and dirty. Yes last night he could have had 15 assits but he also could have not made the stuipid passes and scored 20 easy points.

**madcityCY** · 12-22-2011, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by kingcy

White has talent. It just seems he doesnt want to get down and dirty. Yes last night he could have had 15 assits but he also could have not made the stuipid passes and scored 20 easy points.

I disagree. They were sagging on him, and always doubled or triple teamed him when he got into the lane. A couple times, I saw four defenders in the lane when he had the ball low. He could have scored more, but there were always open men on the wing.

**ajk4st8** · 12-22-2011, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ames

White has huge huge potential, but based solely on what he has done so far he hasn't warranted all the hype.

You forgot the sarcasm pirate. He is one of the most skilled players to come through in a long time.

Look at his numbers. Fantastic so far for a first year player.

**tre** · 12-22-2011, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Ames

White has huge huge potential, but based solely on what he has done so far he hasn't warranted all the hype.

Have to disagree w/ ya...at one point (game or two ago, maybe 3) he was one of only 2 ppl in the country to lead his team in every category...points, rebs, blocks, etc.

**bawbie** · 12-22-2011, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by CYKOFAN

If the choice came down to Eckmeier or Burgason, GMac made a huge mistake. Big difference between a guy 6-2 that shoots his jumper low and a guy at least 6-5. I can't imagine Eckmeier having a game anything like Burgason did last night against a Big 12 opponent. He can also rebound.

They are both listed at 6'3".

Eikmeier is averaging 17 pts a game this year, Burgason is averaging 14.

Eikmeier's career high is 25, in which he hit 5 threes against BYU (an elite eight team).

**cycfan1** · 12-22-2011, 02:19 PM

So Burgason, Bubu, McD, and Barnes were all on the same team?

Crazy to think we had a D-1 school in Ames that year, basically... they probably could have kept up with a few college schools.

**Ames** · 12-22-2011, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by tre

Have to disagree w/ ya...at one point (game or two ago, maybe 3) he was one of only 2 ppl in the country to lead his team in every category...points, rebs, blocks, etc.

When he learns how to finish in the paint even half as strong as Poppens let me know.

Actually I'd settle for him just learning how to take some contact without being a whinny little girl. He literally stops playing for a bit.

**RayShimley** · 12-22-2011, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Ames

When he learns how to finish in the paint even half as strong as Poppens let me know.

lol.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IdZkGnVBas]Royce White dunk vs. Lehigh 11-12-2011 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o4-rItDHJY]Royce White dunk Iowa State vs. Western Carolina 11-20-2011 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCzfWij6I-g]Royce White dunk Iowa State Cyclones vs. Iowa 12-9-2011 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXqVrtKLbrA]Royce White one-handed dunk - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OadR9favWTg]Royce White dunk Iowa State vs Northern Colorado 11-22-11 - YouTube[/ame]

Now you've lost all credibility.

**RayShimley** · 12-22-2011, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ames

When he learns how to finish in the paint even half as strong as Poppens let me know.

Actually I'd settle for him just learning how to take some contact without being a whinny little girl. He literally stops playing for a bit.

********. Your h8orade runneth over.

**IP Guy** · 12-22-2011, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by bawbie

If Eikmeier wasn't good enough to make it here

Really? I simply do not grasp how people can keep dogging Eik. Unlike the masses, I was bummed he left. He had it when he left, and he still has it now. He has shown that against some very solid (and even some elite) competition.

Do people just not know or have they intentionally forgotten that he was pretty badly injured his freshman year, he was tough enough to try to play through it, but it dramatically impacted his play. When he was healthy early on, he made a huge difference with his shot by causing defenses to cover portions of the floor where they previously sagged and helped out, and he was a skinny freshman from nowhere NE. I knew he would develop his game to be more rounded, and he has.

So, I guess the rest of this statement is quite irrelevant as it assumes facts that are inaccurate (or at a very minimum, it assumes facts that are nowhere near proven).

As for Burgason this year (unlike the masses, I won't comment about prior years as I did not see him play those years), he would play and contribute. He comes off the ball and knows how to use his body to make room to shoot. He would be similar to Scotty, which is pretty good.