***Iowa State @ Kansas Official CST Gameday Thread***

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Originally Posted by cyclones500

The officiating wasn't the reason for the loss. It didn't help —*neither did poor shot selection, bad ball-handling in the second half, letting a team back in the game on numerous occasions (that bad tendency we saw in non-conference reared its ugly head again).

As I posted, the officiating was atrocious, but mainly because it was inconsistent. I doubt ISU was fouling any more in the second half than in the first half. KU had multiple travels that weren't called, but ISU didn't get the same luxury.

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Uhhhh.....the officiating was why KU was able to come from 10 down and get lead at 7 minute mark or whatever......the poor play on our part after that does not matter. KU is good, and when refs play in the game like that, that IS the reason we lose. The Scotty Hack wasn't a foul???? come on. crazy.

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Originally Posted by Shinyhappyclone

Uhhhh.....the officiating was why KU was able to come from 10 down and get lead at 7 minute mark or whatever......the poor play on our part after that does not matter. KU is good, and when refs play in the game like that, that IS the reason we lose. The Scotty Hack wasn't a foul???? come on. crazy.

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92% free throw shooter shooting two. The next trip down the floor Babb would have had a 1 and 1 if the obvious and correct call had been made on the massive foul against SC.

That's a 4-3 point swing just in those 30 seconds of horrible one sided calls, arguing against that is idiotic.

You always have to beat KU by 10, they get 10 points worth of calls in their favor in every Big 12 game. It's probably the reason people think they underperform in the NCAA quite often. Harder to win when you're not gifted ten points every game.

The years ISU won five straight against KU 10-12 years ago, ISU was actually blowing them out. They overcame these same kind of calls and still won over and over.

Who knows if KU could have got back in the game on their own, it's a fact that the one sided calls are what got KU back in the game. Once they got the lead they did outplay ISU. They did not make up the 10 point deficit by being the better team, they were clearly the worse team outside of horrible officiating until they took the lead late.

Anybody have video of that totally not a foul on Scottie?

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Royce, you are correct. Shaking your head about officiating at Kansas is about right.

At the same time, shaking our head about this team's free throw shooting is about right. We have to get that under control. That's 2 losses in a row we can tie right to FT shooting.

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Royce knows the way the Big 12 works now. I totally understand why he'd be upset, but at least he learned it four games in. There are quite obviously two sets of rules, one for KU and one for the other 9 or 11 teams int he league.

Next year hopefully he'll beat KU by more than ten both times to take them down the way Tinsley did four straight. Kansas can never lose a Big 12 game by a point, they have to lose by 10 or 20 to actually take the L.

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Originally Posted by Judoka

Anybody have video of that totally not a foul on Scottie?

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They replayed it in slow motion. I'm sure somebody could grab it off espn3 somehow.

Both arms were hacked hard, tons of contact on the body. If you were going to call one foul the entire game, that's the one to call. It's fixed boys, it always has been. Rock chalk.

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Originally Posted by HFCS

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Originally Posted by Judoka

Anybody have video of that totally not a foul on Scottie?

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They replayed it in slow motion. I'm sure somebody could grab it off espn3 somehow.Both arms were hacked hard, tons of contact on the body. If you were going to call one foul the entire game, that's the one to call. It's fixed boys, it always has been. Rock chalk.

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This.