Fred's sideline demeanor

**cycloneike001** · 01-14-2012, 10:44 AM

I really like the way Fred has grown this year. Last year with Bobby Lutz helped us a lot, but without Lutz you can really see how Fred has grown this season from game 1 to game 16.

**CycloneErik** · 01-14-2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by HuddleUp

Yeah... the officials tend to call a pretty even game there. No sense working them if things start to get out of hand.

Giving Kansas 5 extra points sounds very beneficial.

Technicals hurt the team. Wanting a technical is not wanting a good thing.

**HuddleUp** · 01-14-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Giving Kansas 5 extra points sounds very beneficial.

Technicals hurt the team. Wanting a technical is not wanting a good thing.

Wait, you get 5 points now for a technical? That changes everything.

**cyclones12321** · 01-14-2012, 11:03 AM

Its nice seeing that emotion. Sometimes I wish he would throw a chair at the refs. With the strides hes taking we can expect this early next year

**HuddleUp** · 01-14-2012, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by cyclones12321

Its nice seeing that emotion. Sometimes I wish he would throw a chair at the refs. With the strides hes taking we can expect this early next year

And this is certainly a possibility in time for the B12 tournament. Seriously, can you picture Fred doing this? That thought makes me laugh.

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**UtahClone** · 01-14-2012, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonepride

Where did you find that Anteater? Should we nickname Fred "The Anteater" or is he more the "Honey Badger" he don't care.

**Madcyentist** · 01-14-2012, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by clonedude

I don't want him to get T'ed up unless it's really obvious that the refs are completely screwing us over. Just a little more emotion would be fine with me. I'd actually like to see him get a little more upset with a player that's not giving it their all for example.

But I don't want him to become like Fran over in IC. What an embarrassment he is IMO.

Ok, so I get that what Fran did at MSU was a bit extreme, but at least the guy shows his expectations. CFH does say the right things, but I miss the years of coaches who just got ****** off and let the team and crowd know it. I miss Larry calling time outs, then telling everyone on the bench to sit down and just leaving the team out there. Just to indicate that "the only reason you can be doing so poorly is because you're tired." sure some teams respond differently, but I do enjoy coaches the put it all out there. Just my opinion.

G's up jayhawks down.

**Die4Cy** · 01-14-2012, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by HuddleUp

I love that picture of Fred on the front page of CF. You can tell he's getting more comfortable with each game. He's getting on the officials and his players. He's much more demonstrative this year than last. It's fun watching him develop as a coach. I'm still waiting for him to get T'd up. Maybe today.

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

**Doc** · 01-14-2012, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by HuddleUp

Wait, you get 5 points now for a technical? That changes everything.

Against Kansas yes. Free Throw, DeadBall 3, Free Throw.

**Cyclonepride** · 01-14-2012, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by UtahClone

Where did you find that Anteater? Should we nickname Fred "The Anteater" or is he more the "Honey Badger" he don't care.

Reddit.

**cyatheart** · 01-14-2012, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by HuddleUp

Yeah... the officials tend to call a pretty even game there. No sense working them if things start to get out of hand.

Working them and getting T'd up when you can't afford to be giving points away are two different things. Getting T'd up isn't motivating anyone.

**HuddleUp** · 01-14-2012, 01:43 PM

Common sense says there is a time to get one and a time not to get one. I've been in Allen Firehouse at least 25 times and have seen the officials over and over get caught up in the crowd hysteria and slant their calls in KU's favor.

If it's a close game, you obviously don't do it. If KU goes on one of their 18-4 runs and they're getting the calls AND you're down 15 in that madhouse, you'd better do something.

**HuddleUp** · 01-14-2012, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by HuddleUp

Common sense says there is a time to get one and a time not to get one. I've been in Allen Fieldhouse at least 25 times and have seen the officials over and over get caught up in the crowd hysteria and slant their calls in KU's favor. If it's a close game, you obviously don't do it. If KU goes on one of their 18-4 runs and they're getting the calls AND you're down 15 in that madhouse, you'd better do something.

**Cycofan1** · 01-14-2012, 02:02 PM

Hoiberg don't give a ****

**ThatllDoCy** · 01-14-2012, 02:39 PM

A Coach needs to be a good teacher and a smart game planner and manager. Not having control over your temper does not imply a Coach can do any of those things. Coaches tend to have big egos. Big egos tend to have anger issues.

I like Fred's demeanor. It differentiates him and is very professional. I like BF too, and he is a yeller. Not the reason he is successful. What works for each Coach is different. i am just happy he is our Coach and we are trending towards relevance again.