Anybody have a clip of the Hoiberg "shove"

**Yellow Snow** · 01-29-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by jaysue

You know it's funny how every body wants to talk about the "shove' but not one comment that CA went to Fred as play began and I'm guessing letting him know he was wrong. He talked for about 15 seconds and I would guess in Fred's eyes that gained him time back on the floor.

It amazes me how everyone wants to jump on one thing and we have waited for years to see some REAL positives come out of Hilton. Guys (and gals) take it from someone who has had season tickets since the '70's. Something special is developing in Hilton and it is a lot more fun to look at the good things than rip every little wart. Go Cyclones!!

I'm not ripping at all... I'm actually kind of pleased that my Hawk relatives are all up in arms about this.

My biggest thing is... that without seeing it I have no argument. For all I know, Fred gave him a forearm shiver and tapped him out with an arm bar.

**ty4cy90** · 01-29-2012, 07:29 PM

It looked like to me that CA was kind of, or in the process of, going over to Fred to try and explain himself in the "Awh coach I'm sorry I messed up, it won't happen again" all buddy- buddy like and maybe getting close to Fred by doing that. Fred obviously wasn't having that type of friendly conversation with CA and gave him a hey, this is serious situation, don't get all buddy buddy and close to me.

Sorry if I explained that badly. Maybe someone else can corroborate.

**06_CY** · 01-29-2012, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Cybyassociation

Oh please. Because I think Fred's anger got away from him all of a sudden I'm a sissy? I'd love to see Fred get that fired up at one of the officials for once instead of one of his players. I dont even think it was "over the top", just unnecessary. Of course, you may hear that and think that I said Fred went all Woody Hayes on CA. I apologize for being a sissy. But whinny? What am I, a horse?

Fred's anger got away from him? HAHA.

**RustShack** · 01-29-2012, 07:33 PM

There is nothing wrong at all with getting your point across. Its not like he took a swing, or anything remotely close.

**Clones21** · 01-29-2012, 07:35 PM

I like when Fred gets mad. I wish he would show more fire sometimes. I think we all know Eustachy and Floyd did probably way worse than a little "push" to some players.

**urb1** · 01-29-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonefarmer

Roughly 3:47 left in 1st half.If you recorded from ESPN you'll only see a couple seconds,then when they get back to the game it's shown again for a couple seconds. That teaching moment shouldn't even warrant a thread on here.CA was holding on CFH's coat the whole time and CFH didn't shove him as much as push him while holding onto his jersey.It was almost like he was thinking "I hate to do this but I gotta get your attention."

You can watch it on ESPN3.com, and can fast forward using the progress bar at the bottom. They show both shoves described above.

**isuno1fan** · 01-29-2012, 07:37 PM

**IowaStateClones** · 01-29-2012, 07:38 PM

**cyclone87** · 01-29-2012, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Cybyassociation

I think it's funny that Fran gets physical with a chair and Cyclones are calling it over the line...Fred gets physical with a player and it's "deserved" and praised.

Fran also grabbed a referee in that same game, he gets completely out of control when he gets angry. Imo Fred was not out of control at all, Allen needed a little ruffling, you know he was quite upset as he is usually very calm and poised/business like.

**JUKEBOX** · 01-29-2012, 07:53 PM

It was kind of like this except less psycho, shorter, and the shove was barely noticeable.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRjDVsw-eQU]Saban gives McCarron an ear full - YouTube[/ame]

**cyclone87** · 01-29-2012, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by only4cy

If by "America" you are referring to CybyAssociation and other phony hock trolls, yes. What a bunch of sissies/*******.

he's not a troll or a hawk fan, but he is a big UNI fan

**Cybyassociation** · 01-29-2012, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone87

he's not a troll or a hawk fan, but he is a big UNI fan

I suppose I'll admit to that at least. UNI grad, gotta stay true.

**Cyclonesrule91** · 01-29-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cybyassociation

Oh please. Because I think Fred's anger got away from him all of a sudden I'm a sissy? I'd love to see Fred get that fired up at one of the officials for once instead of one of his players. I dont even think it was "over the top", just unnecessary. Of course, you may hear that and think that I said Fred went all Woody Hayes on CA. I apologize for being a sissy. But whinny? What am I, a horse?

Fred's anger got away from???? I seen it when it happened and also after a commercial break when the announcers made mention of it. Announcers didn't see anything wrong with nor did I. Allen gave up after making a stupid turnover that led to us losing the lead. Then to top it off, Allen gives up on playing any defense as he walks to the other end. He deserved more than he got.......and what he got obviously was a point well taken because his play improved after that when he went back in. This isn't a 5 yr old basket weaving class....give me a break.

**Jambalaya** · 01-29-2012, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Yellow Snow

I missed it during the game... apparently Hoiberg assulted CA?

According to some Hawk people i know... CA should press charges. What the hell are they talking about?

Thanks in advance if anybody has the clip YouTubed....

tell your hawk friends to go f- themselves