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    Re: Not ranked.

    Strange, we're closer to being ranked in the AP poll than the coaches poll.

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by stateofmind View Post
    I really thought we would get ranked this week after we beat KSU. But looking at who is ranked and who is ahead of us, I would highly doubt that we will be ranked. We hopefully move into the 20s. Coaches had us at 31, AP at 35. Our record is the same or just below the bottom teams that are ranked. Since our SOS is weak, expect no real moves after beating two teams below us in the conference.

    Just the facts. I think this motivates the players a lot. I don't want them to read good things.
    Our SOS is not weak by any measure. Getting annoyed at people repeating something that some ISU fans irrationally started at the beginning of the year.

    Some teams ranked just in front of us in this AP poll:

    Sagarin SOS:
    ISU: 47th out of 345
    New Mexico: 135th
    Gonzaga: 113th
    Notre Dame: 43rd
    Louisville: 59th
    Harvard: 247th
    Virginia: 134th
    Marquette: 40th
    Mississippi State: 93rd
    Creighton: 81st

    RPI SOS:
    ISU: 55th out of 345
    New Mexico: 97th
    Gonzaga: 64th
    Notre Dame: 59th
    Louisville: 44th
    Harvard: 228th
    Virginia: 125th
    Marquette: 16th
    Mississippi State: 66th
    Creighton: 94th

    The Big Ten teams around ISU all have comperable or better SOS. Pretty much every other school within 15 spots below or above us including ACC and Big East teams has a comparable to much worse SOS.

    Playing in the Big 12, 2 MVC, 2 Big Ten and one Big East opponent is enough to guarantee our SOS ends up in the top 50 out of 345 teams. I have no idea why few of our fans realized this from day one and still don't realize it. We're going to finish with an SOS around 20-30 out of 345 teams because we still have 3 dates with top ranked teams.
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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    I dont get the 'id rather fly under the radar' posts. No matter if we're ranked or not, we've played almost every big 12 team already. We may be below the radar of some nationally, but within the conference there is nobody that doesnt know what we've done to this point, and almost all have experienced it (just not baylor).
    Because being ranked puts a bigger target on them, and can play negatively on their psychology (preparation/effort).

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Calm down people. If we win twice this week we'll get another shot at the Top 25.
    Oh, hai there

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    They shouldn't, but they do.
    Thats GREAT. Now they still have something to work for. Job's not done.

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    I dont get the 'id rather fly under the radar' posts. No matter if we're ranked or not, we've played almost every big 12 team already. We may be below the radar of some nationally, but within the conference there is nobody that doesnt know what we've done to this point, and almost all have experienced it (just not baylor).
    don't kid yourself. There are A LOT of stupid fans out there and some of them will only care to show up and cheer if the team coming in is ranked. I don't think we'll sneak by a team looking by us, but we could definitely not get a hostile crowd's best shot by being unranked which on the road would be worth it.
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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    Our SOS is not weak by any measure. Getting annoyed at people repeating something that some ISU fans irrationally started at the beginning of the year.

    Some teams ranked just in front of us in this AP poll:

    Sagarin SOS:
    ISU: 47th out of 345
    New Mexico: 135th
    Gonzaga: 113th
    Notre Dame: 43rd
    Louisville: 59th
    Harvard: 247th
    Virginia: 134th
    Marquette: 40th
    Mississippi State: 93rd
    Creighton: 81st

    RPI SOS:
    ISU: 55th out of 345
    New Mexico: 97th
    Gonzaga: 64th
    Notre Dame: 59th
    Louisville: 44th
    Harvard: 228th
    Virginia: 125th
    Marquette: 16th
    Mississippi State: 66th
    Creighton: 94th

    The Big Ten teams around ISU all have comperable or better schedules. Pretty much every other school within 15 spots below or above us has a comparable to much worse SOS.

    Playing in the Big 12, 2 MVC, 2 Big Ten and one Big East opponent is enough to guarantee our SOS ends up in the top 50 out of 345 teams. I have no idea why few of our fans realized this from day one and still don't realize it. We're going to finish with an SOS around 20-30 out of 340 teams because we still have 3 dates with top ranked teams.
    A lot of it comes from the myth that our SOS is weak because our noncon wasnt terribly strong. Most schools have a lot of buy a win games, but it also doesnt account for the fact that we've replaced 2 noncon games with big 12 games. Nobody would be saying anything about our noncon if instead of playing those 2 big 12 games, we'd played 2 more BCS conference teams.

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsCYence View Post
    Calm down people. If we win twice this week we'll get another shot at the Top 25.
    (Theoretical) wins over OSU and eaTme wouldn't do much for the Cyclones. They would still need teams ahead to stumble.

    Don't get your hopes up on rankings. Just win for the sake of staying in the title race.
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    Re: Not ranked.

    What a load of ******* ****.

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by RING4CY View Post
    Congratulations?
    I should have added that....

    THIS MEANS NOTHING!!!!!!!!!
    "Missouri is free to create an enduring basketball rivalry with Auburn."

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    There are 37 freaking at-large bids in the NCAA tourney. Assuming at least ten of the top 25 teams take an automatic bid, that means there are roughly 20 spots open for teams not in the top 25.
    Is his point: "if we are not thought highly enough to be ranked we will not make the tournament"?

    clone21, are you saying given the getting an invite to the tournament is based on a subjective list, the fact rankings are a subjective list is insufficient in contending being ranked does not have value? If so, I agree.

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsCYence View Post
    Calm down people. If we win twice this week we'll get another shot at the Top 25.
    Agree.
    "Missouri is free to create an enduring basketball rivalry with Auburn."

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    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    I dont get the 'id rather fly under the radar' posts. No matter if we're ranked or not, we've played almost every big 12 team already. We may be below the radar of some nationally, but within the conference there is nobody that doesnt know what we've done to this point, and almost all have experienced it (just not baylor).
    Flying under the radar is not only meant for the players, but also fans. If a ranked team is visiting, you can bet there will be a lot more students and fair weather fans showing up for a chance to see an "upset".

    And when players have a chance to beat a ranked team, they will give just a little extra effort in order to do so.

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    Re: Not ranked.

    Rankings <<<< Current title race WE ARE PART OF. That is my only concern right now.
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    Re: Not ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    I should have added that....

    THIS MEANS NOTHING!!!!!!!!!
    No kidding, who cares? We could win again on Tuesday and Saturday and I would still be fine with not being ranked.

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