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They celebrated when they had their dunks in the second half. No consistency in the call whatsoever.
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Great quote and totally agree with you. We had our chances to put them away but still frustrating to see such inconsistencies in calls re: celebrations.
Let's send the aggies to the SEC in style!  Originally Posted by Psyclone Brian Well gang, my philosophy is this;
Infact Tim Floyd once said the same thing after we lost a game down in Puerto Rico in 1995. Remember Purdue's Melvin Mcantz? He clobbered our guy (think it was Hoiberg) ...and the Ref, (who was banned from doing Big 8 games) didn't blow his whistle, and we lost the game by a point. So... what does all this mean???
Well, I called in on the radio-show to chat with Coach Floyd (and Pete Taylor) about the loss... and Floyd said something that echos in my mind to this day. "Listen to me... We did not lose that game because of a call, or no call. There were so many other factors in that game that decided the loss... You have to play your opponent SO WELL, that the officiating isn't even an issue!"
...He's absolutely correct.
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Officiating didn't lose us the game. Poor turnovers and fast break points was the difference maker. And props to Nash, hit a tough shot at the end with good defense from Allen. On to the next one.
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While the TF on Tyrus was one of the worst TF calls I think I have ever seen, it did not cost us the game. FT killed us, and not capitalizing on turnovers are about the only things in the stat line that look to have cost us a close game.
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While I agree with the opinion of it being a BS Technical, I do not agree with it being the difference maker. We missed too many shots, and looked lost. Had some very stupid turnovers and our defense was pathetic at best. They were making some tough shots and making us eat every mistake on defense.
WE lost the game due to poor execution and many other things, not because of one technical..
I award you no points, and may God have Mercy on your Soul...
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Both technicals were bad. I hate seeing refs taking the fun and passion out of the game, making the game more about them than the players. The T on McGee could be called about 10 times per game if refs are going to interpret that type of celebration as T worthy. But this in no way was a "difference maker" in this game.
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On McGee's "T" I think the ref thought his gesture was made toward the defender (Page?) and therefore was misconstrued as taunting. I don't think McGee was intending that gesture for anyone in particular, but I guess the ref didn't see it that way.  Originally Posted by flycy No he didn't. I thought that live too, but went back and looked several times. He held his pivot foot the whole time. I guess a player isn't suppose to be happy after a great play. Terrible call, no taunting whatsoever. I believe you are thinking of the play where McGee had the nice spin, leaned, and went up and under Nash for the bank shot. The play where he got T'd up was the breakaway where he had 2 guys draped all over him. He picked up his dribble around the free throw line and took about 4 steps to the hoop.
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Maybe McGee said something to his defender that the ref heard? Regardless, that call had no effect on the outcome of this game.
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I'm pretty sure the announcers said that Nash directed some foul language at the ref. If this is true how is this a weak T? If so Nash deserved the T.
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 Originally Posted by Cincyclone Maybe McGee said something to his defender that the ref heard? Regardless, that call had no effect on the outcome of this game. Yah I assumed McGee didn't simply make that gesture. You can bet he said something too.
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Re: Technical Foul=Difference Maker
 Originally Posted by NickTheGreat Yah I assumed McGee didn't simply make that gesture. You can bet he said something too.
His next big play though he sure kept his yap shut!  On the replay he certainly seemed to have his mouth shut. I think they were probably both a little hasty whistles.
I don't think it was a wash, though. An additional foul on Nash could certainly have proved more costly to OSU than an additional foul on Tyrus given OSU's lack of depth and scoring options.
And yes, both teams hit the Technical FT's How many officiating threads are necessary after an ISU loss? "There are five real good recruits in the state. We got three of them. One couldn’t get into school, and the other went to (the University of) Iowa...which is about the same thing." - Coach Johnny Orr -
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 Originally Posted by CycloneKC I'm not one to blame officiating for a loss but the technical foul they called on us in the 1st half was the difference maker. Pretty pathetic to call that on McGee who is the classiest kid. Did you happen to see OSU's celebration on their dunks and when Page made his off balanced old fashioned 3 point play? Give me a break refs! You need to call it both ways. It was called both ways a lot better than previous games, a la @KU. But I agree, the celebration after some of the dunks was **** poor officiating not to call that. They were directly yelling and "taunting" our players after each of those plays. Very Bush IMO, but on the road what do you expect?
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Re: Technical Foul=Difference Maker
 Originally Posted by Cincyclone Maybe McGee said something to his defender that the ref heard? Regardless, that call had no effect on the outcome of this game. I didn't see the play but you all have to remember it could have been something that was said as well, not just the gesture. Maybe TG yelled **** you ***** at Page, we simply don't know.
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 Originally Posted by VeloClone On the replay he certainly seemed to have his mouth shut. I think they were probably both a little hasty whistles.
I don't think it was a wash, though. An additional foul on Nash could certainly have proved more costly to OSU than an additional foul on Tyrus given OSU's lack of depth and scoring options.
And yes, both teams hit the Technical FT's How many officiating threads are necessary after an ISU loss? Maybe. The replay I saw I couldn't see his mouth, just the "And 1" gesture.
Fred seemed to think he shouldn't have acted like that.
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