Why Is Scott

**swarthmoreCY** · 02-07-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by ckestner

I think Hoiberg is smarter than that.

Very likely he would have played 10-15 minutes tonight.

**Cyclone271** · 02-07-2012, 08:46 PM

Scott may not be our best ballhandler/driver, but we also have to remember that he is probably the least athletic guy on the court in most Big 12 games, and he is forced to drive with our best post presence being a 6'9" point guard

**marothisu** · 02-07-2012, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone271

Scott may not be our best ballhandler/driver, but we also have to remember that he is probably the least athletic guy on the court in most Big 12 games, and he is forced to drive with our best post presence being a 6'9" point guard

How is he forced to drive..?

**cyclone87** · 02-07-2012, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by KFitzy87

Bringing the ball up the court again?? I understand Allen has wing skills but Chris rarely gets the ball taken away from him compared to Scott.... Our offense also started gelling earlier this year when we made the switch to Allen at PG duties... I think that's a major reason this game didn't go as well

Allen is a very good sharp shooter as we saw tonight (can tell he loves to hit big shots), Scott and Royce have been handling the majority of the point guard duties for the last few games. Okie State's guards just really got after Scotty tonight. It will be interesting to see if they change things up again for aTm.

**Cyclone271** · 02-07-2012, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by marothisu

How is he forced to drive..?

Without a post presence, we can't have an inside-out game unless players drive, which only Scott and Royce are willing to do

**marothisu** · 02-07-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone271

Without a post presence, we can't have an inside-out game unless players drive, which only Scott and Royce are willing to do

Um, we have a post presence. His name is Royce White. Seriously dude?

**Cyclone271** · 02-07-2012, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by marothisu

Um, we have a post presence. His name is Royce White. Seriously dude?

Most of the time Royce is playing out at the three point line and hands the ball off to Scott to set up the drive, which leaves him totally out of the play. And if Royce is playing more like a post at any given moment, he usually isn't down on the low block to start out, which means that he then has to drive to have any sort of an inside-out game

**clonedude** · 02-07-2012, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone271

Without a post presence, we can't have an inside-out game unless players drive, which only Scott and Royce are willing to do

I will grant you this. I don't know why nobody else on this team can't drive? McGee can at times I guess.

But when Royce isn't in the game, we're basically just a pass it around and launch a guarded 3 when the clock runs down type of team.

**clonehenge** · 02-07-2012, 09:06 PM

Can't really fault the guy for trying to penetrate...

Just wish he'd keep his head up when he did...he gets too far in with no where to go a lot of times...

And with his head down he misses open people...missed Booker tonight when he was wide open going down the lane...it's happened in previous games as well...

I truly believe that this team is a Tinsley/Blaylock type PG away from being undefeated in conference play...but you play with what you have...

**xboxfever** · 02-07-2012, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

No really. It wasn't a joke. I really do think I dribble better than Scott.

**Wesley** · 02-07-2012, 09:08 PM

Why does Scott not try to shoot more threes?

**Cyclone271** · 02-07-2012, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by clonedude

I will grant you this. I don't know why nobody else on this team can't drive? McGee can at times I guess.

But when Royce isn't in the game, we're basically just a pass it around and launch a guarded 3 when the clock runs down type of team.

I'm not trying to insult Royce at all, he is our best player, has a chance to be a POY candidate next year if he stays, its just that he doesn't bring that much of a post presence to us, but only he and Scott are willing to drive, which yes, does mean that when he isn't in we have even less of a post presence

**marothisu** · 02-07-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone271

Most of the time Royce is playing out at the three point line and hands the ball off to Scott to set up the drive, which leaves him totally out of the play. And if Royce is playing more like a post at any given moment, he usually isn't down on the low block to start out, which means that he then has to drive to have any sort of an inside-out game

Oh for God's sake, you need to ACTUALLY watch more games.

1) Royce plays less on the perimeter than you think, but yes he plays out there, but he's not doing it like Jamie Vanderbeken did. He plays out there to establish a mismatch and set a tone. Royce plays all over the court because he can. However, refer to #3 in a little bit.

2) Scott is not forced to do ****. He does it himself. When he drives inside, it's not usually because we don't have much time left on the clock. It's usually because of his own doing. He sees a small opening on a curl and thinks he can drive inside, except he doesn't learn that defenses actually collapse on him EVERY. *******. TIME. He could easily not do that and pass the ball before he even drives or he could easily kick it to someone else while driving since the defense is collapsing leaving someone open. When he does this, he usually makes a ****** pass and turns it over right into the defender's arms or off their leg.

3) If Royce was not a legitimate post threat, opposing teams wouldn't be doubling down on him every single time he touches the ball near the basket. Royce has probably taken less than 10 shots all year from outside of 6 or 7 feet.

Why do you think we have so many open 3 pointers this year taken on an established offense? A big reason is because of White. We had 15 threes against Oklahoma last game? Want to know why? Because he's an inside threat, and they'd double him down, and he'd just kick it out. He's been doing this ALL year.

Again, he's a legitimate inside threat, which is why every ******* team we've played this year (with the exception of the first two maybe) has doubled him down. No team in their right mind doubles down on a player who isn't a legitimate threat. It's ******* stupid.

The only reason White handles the ball as much as he can, is because he can. He's one of the most versatile players in all of college basketball. However, as much as you want to think scott is forced to do something, he's not. He could easily wait for another player to cut anywhere on the court (i.e. inside, like White). However, he doesn't and tries to do everything himself. Watch next time. He has plenty of opportunity to let someone else make a play but he selfishly tries to do it alllll himself.

**cymaniac17** · 02-07-2012, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by kingcy

Why is he turning down 3s?

This! He is a best 3 point shooter yet he passes up 2-3 WIDE OPEN 3 pointers a game and instead drives and throws a stupid pass, turns it over or gets blocked. He is open almost everytime when royce and him do the little hand off thing on the perimeter but doesnt take it.

**marothisu** · 02-07-2012, 09:25 PM

Also, by the same token you could make the case for any other player on our team doing this too much. I don't see Chris Babb driving to the hoop all the time. Yeah he does sometimes, but not much and he actually has the ability to sometimes. Chris Allen doesn't do it even though he has the ability to get to the hoop. SO why does Scott do it? Because his IQ in those situations isn't as high as we/he thinks it is.

I can almost guarantee you that in every scouting report right now on SC, it's "if he drives, collapse on him." I would put real money on that.