Coaches screaming in the face of players

[GMan]

This. I think if used when a player has really messed up can be very effective. As far as a coach that screams all the time, I think players can become immune to it, I know I did. However, I think alot of these coaches are such attention @#$%@ at the college level (see Ricky P at UL for example) that they do anything to get the focus on them. I personally am a big fan of the Frank Martin death stare.

I think at times, constantly yelling also allows the coach absolve responsibility for the player's performance. If you yell and scream, you always have the defense "Well I did everything I could. It's the player's fault if they don't listen and don't want to buy in to what I'm saying."

[CycloneVet]

There is something very different in Bo Pelini's Taylor Martinez Tirade and McDermotts Doug tirade, than your typical motivation. Both reaked of desperation and frustration, they werent coaching at those points in time

[CycloneVet]

how about Bill Fennelly

Ok you got me there. LE was a screamer and his program was gradually getting worse with more and more players defecting. Granted he is righting his ship down south. Point is I just dont agree with it.

[bostrem00]

Good point possibly an exception, name another SCREAMER that has been successful long term.

A certain, Iowa State mens coach wasn't exactly silent....I believe he coached from 1980-1994...the name escapes me

[DurangoCy]

I coach a local 3rd/4th grade team and I spend the entire practice yelling and screaming at them. When they really **** me off I just go silent and lift up my shirt to show them the 9mm tucked into my waist band.
This usually corrects the problem.

[BCClone]

I'm curious, do you think it motivated you? The question for me isn't does the coach have a right to yell at players, it's whether or not it actually motivates them. If you become immune to it, it seems like it would cease to become an effective motivational tool. I think this is the OP's original point.

For me it didn't, some it did. I seemed to get more than the rest and after getting beat on enough, I actually messed up more.

[CycloneVet]

For me it didn't, some it did. I seemed to get more than the rest and after getting beat on enough, I actually messed up more.

Yea me too. I still see the coach sometimes when I get back to my hometown, I consider knocking him out most of the time, but I refrain.

[BCClone]

I read it as screaming incessantly at players is mean. That is why I said its college and you can choose that school or not.

The point of using it as a tool and not constantly to hold effectiveness I totally agree with.

[dtISU]

Our high school coach used to make us run till we puked when he was ****** at us. I'd rather take a tongue lashing.

[cyatheart]

Greg McDermotts recent outbust on his son got me thinking about the point of embarassing a player on national TV. I have had a coach scream at me in my face to the effect of what Doug (or Taylor Martinez, or the entire Hawk BBall team (chair scene)), and I think I heard the 1st 2 words of the tirade, then the rest went in 1 ear and out the other. I knew I screwed up and believe it or not I was thinking in my mind about how I needed to re-focus and be sharp. I didnt need a coach embarassing and belittling me to get the point across.

Some of you are gonna think Fred Hoiberg/Chris Allen situation. It was different, it didnt go on and on, Fred got his point across and it was done, we saw a better Chris Allen after that. Greg McDermott (Bo Pelini, Fran McCaffrey) should be ashamed of themselves, they were ******** they werent coaching. Especially Greg McDermott you dont do that to your son, and I have 3 of them so I know. Greg should be used to late season meltdowns they happened at UNI, and they happened in the 2nd halves at ISU. The man cant make adjustments to save his life. When a team sees his team the second time in a season they have adjusted but he hasnt.

I am going to not scathe you becaue you clearly have no idea what goes on at the Division 1 level or how these relationshoips work. These coaches get paid millions and you want them to baby players?

Have you ever watched Coach K? Roy Williams? Our own Tim Floyd or the beloved Larry Eustachy? All of these guys chew ***, all the time. Larry said stuff to our guys you can't even imagine. The players get it, it is a non-event and you can turn on the TV any night and see any coach in any league do it. It just isn't always on camera. Awful post.

[baller21]

Ok you got me there. LE was a screamer and his program was gradually getting worse with more and more players defecting. Granted he is righting his ship down south. Point is I just dont agree with it.

I like coaches that show some fire for the game but agree that some take it too far and just end up looking silly. If you've ever seen Mike Stoops on the sidelines you know what I'm talking about.

[PabloDiablo]

Doesn't phase me, had a hs football coach that would do it and then slap the side of your helmet as hard as he could. Ears would ring for minutes. One hs basketball coach screamed no matter what, so I'm kinda immune to this.

This is college, you got to pick where you went.

Over the line. The attitude that this is somehow ok because it's football is dumb as hell. Yell all you want but don't put your hands on my kid unless you want my hands doing the same to you.

[Rabbuk]

I'm surprised we've seen no posts to the effect of "this is why america is soft." But more on point Coaches yelling at players isn't really that effective in my opinion. Maybe discussing in a loud and honest manner is conveying the seriousness of the message, but yelling doesnt seem useful for getting someone over the yips.

[cyclone13]

As a coach, you need to know what works for your players. Some players work well when they are screamed at: they see it as a challenge, an encouragement or deterrent from being shamed for the second time. Some players just need to be told: do better and they'll play better.

At the same time, as a player, you need to know how your prospective coach acts during the recruiting process.

It's always 2-way process.

I have no problem coaches screamign in the face of players during the game. I have problems with coaches blaming players (or certain players) when the team lost.

[CycloneVet]

I read it as screaming incessantly at players is mean. That is why I said its college and you can choose that school or not.

The point of using it as a tool and not constantly to hold effectiveness I totally agree with.

I hear you there and agree, but a line was crossed with the above examples