Can this be right?

**HuddleUp** · 02-22-2012, 11:03 PM

Only four seasons in school history with 10 or more wins? 2000/14, 2001/13, 1997/10, and of course this year with 10. That's saying we never won 10 games prior to the B12. That is just crazy.

**ajk4st8** · 02-22-2012, 11:06 PM

this season is one of the top in my lifetime. we jsut need a couple more bigtime wins!!!

**cc4td28** · 02-22-2012, 11:09 PM

In Big 8 play we only had 14 conference games. Pretty tough to go 10-4 during those years, especially when we always struggled on the road.

**HuddleUp** · 02-22-2012, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by cc4td28

In Big 8 play we only had 14 conference games. Pretty tough to go 10-4 during those years, especially when we always struggled on the road.

With how tough we were at home, we'd only have to win three on the road to get to ten if we swept our home games. I know we struggled under Johnny on the road, but you think we'd have done it at least once. Obviously we didn't. Makes this season more special even with the extra games.

**EYEoftheSTORM** · 02-22-2012, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by cc4td28

In Big 8 play we only had 14 conference games. Pretty tough to go 10-4 during those years, especially when we always struggled on the road.

This...

We didnt play as many games back in the good ole Big 8 days...

Plus we sucked on the road big time.

**besserheimerphat** · 02-22-2012, 11:28 PM

As "great" as some of Johnny Orr's teams were, I think he only had two seasons where he went above .500 in conference. We could beat almost anybody at home, and couldn't beat hardly anybody anywhere else.

**Wesley** · 02-22-2012, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by EYEoftheSTORM

This...

We didnt play as many games back in the good ole Big 8 days...

Plus we sucked on the road big time.

And that was how hilton magic was born: sucked on the road and were barnburners at home.

**coachdags** · 02-22-2012, 11:32 PM

Check how many of our Coaches have a winning conference record.....?

real eye opener, I believe it's 1 or 2.....tough conference Big 8 / 12

**CloneFan65** · 02-22-2012, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by besserheimerphat

As "great" as some of Johnny Orr's teams were, I think he only had two seasons where he went above .500 in conference. We could beat almost anybody at home, and couldn't beat hardly anybody anywhere else.

If I recall correctly, the only team in the Big 8 that had a worse overall conference record than ISU during the Johnny Orr era was Colorado.

**gwoodclone** · 02-22-2012, 11:52 PM

I looked the other day...this is only the 8th winning conference season we've had since the start of the Orr Era.

That's EIGHT in over THIRTY years. I didn't even bother going back to look at our records from the Lynn Nance/Ken Trickey years. Kind of depressing to see how much we've struggled over the years.

This is one of the greatest seasons in school history.

**theshadow** · 02-23-2012, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by HuddleUp

With how tough we were at home, we'd only have to win three on the road to get to ten if we swept our home games. I know we struggled under Johnny on the road, but you think we'd have done it at least once. Obviously we didn't. Makes this season more special even with the extra games.

In 14 years, Johnny's teams won a grand total of 16 league road games. 16-82.

**alarson** · 02-23-2012, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by theshadow

In 14 years, Johnny's teams won a grand total of 16 league road games. 16-82.

Damn. Its a ***** to win on the road, but still, damn.

**HuddleUp** · 02-23-2012, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by theshadow

In 14 years, Johnny's teams won a grand total of 16 league road games. 16-82.

Holy cow. I didn't realize it was that bad. I remember we'd beat teams at home and lose by 30 at their place within weeks of each other. Our road defense must have been second to none. I love Johnny, but man, that is brutal.

**LindenCy** · 02-23-2012, 12:38 AM

Hoiberg's senior year we had an RPI in the 20s I think and were 6-8 in conference. Still got a 7 seed. The conference was flat out good that year.

**theshadow** · 02-23-2012, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by HuddleUp

Holy cow. I didn't realize it was that bad. I remember we'd beat teams at home and lose by 30 at their place within weeks of each other. Our road defense must have been second to none. I love Johnny, but man, that is brutal.

82 total losses. 49 by double digits. 25 by 20 or more.

by <10: 33
by 10-19: 24
by 20-29: 22
by 30-39: 2
by 40+: 1

The 1986 Sweet 16 team was 2-5, but 4 of the losses were by 13 or more.
The 1988 NCAA tourney team was 2-5. All 5 losses were by 10+.
The 1989 NCAA tourney team was 1-6, with the average loss by 24.2 points.
The 1992 NCAA tourney team went 0-7, with losses of 29 and 26.