Cyclone Alley Twitter Chat

**KFitzy87** · 03-01-2012, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by EforISU14

they have a rewards system now that you earn like 2 pts for going to a mens game and 3 for a women's game. after accumulating so many points you can get more cyclone alley gear

I'm not saying award attendance... I'm saying award enthusiasm... There's a difference between being there and BEING there...

**RayShimley** · 03-01-2012, 07:45 PM

Ha! That picture is awesome. Good job outta IU.

I like the bricks.

**CynadoAlley** · 03-01-2012, 07:50 PM

Over all so far, great responses. It seems to me that the "t-shirt" rule will not be used next year. At least thats the overwhelming backing.
A lot of kids also saying that they want to see more big heads. Personally, that upset me. I made one, nobody is stopping anyone else from doing so also. Students need to not just NEED to be TOLD to do something and just do it.

I'm glad they're doing this though. Some great stuff I'm seeing.

**Rabbuk** · 03-01-2012, 07:52 PM

someone complain about how the CA leaders always get the first row.

**bostrem00** · 03-01-2012, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist

I assume some heat is coming from the AD...one year grace period to fix the problems or the student section shrinks after next season.

Paper tickets...rinse and repeat.

Selling out the student ticket allotment is a problem? They should try to oversell it to compensate for those who do not use their tickets....

**alarson** · 03-01-2012, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist

I assume some heat is coming from the AD...one year grace period to fix the problems or the student section shrinks after next season.

Paper tickets...rinse and repeat.

Really, it should be something simple to solve. From how i see it youve got 2 main areas of issue that each require their own solution (and unfortunately twitter isnt made for complex responses):

Group A: never picks up their tickets at all, they sit unused for 100% of games.
Group B: picks up tickets but doesnt attend every game.

For group A, you need to find a way to reintroduce those tickets to other students and the public. If you go back to paper, you can just grab the box of un-picked up season ticket packages on gameday and make that game's tickets fair game a certain point before the game (maybe 30 minutes?). Alternately, at a certain point, notify those who havent picked up their season tix and give them the opportunity to sell back their tickets for a percentage so the AD can resell them earlier than gameday (win-win for both)

For group B, they've bothered to pick up their tickets (so theyve shown interest), so what you need to do is maximize the number that go, but also maximize the tickets that get into other people's hands of those that can't make every game (a sizable number no matter what section of the arena you talk about). To do that, you want to open the buyer pool as much as possible. Get rid of the CA shirt requirement (just make it a cardinal shirt), and allow students to resell tickets to the general public as GA balcony tickets (if the AD is already doing this for saturday's game, why shouldnt students be able to?).

And then finally, for sellouts, based on how season attendance has trended after doing those 2 above things (they should have the ability to do this with tickets scanning in now), you should do what we're doing for Baylor and sell some SRO seats.

I think if you did all that, you would maximize seats filled on a consistent basis. There still is the issue (primarily reflected in 'group A') of tickets getting sold during orientation to parents that are never used by kids but i doubt that's going away as its a quick way to get guaranteed money for the AD

**RayShimley** · 03-01-2012, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by CynadoAlley

Over all so far, great responses. It seems to me that the "t-shirt" rule will not be used next year. At least thats the overwhelming backing.
A lot of kids also saying that they want to see more big heads. Personally, that upset me. I made one, nobody is stopping anyone else from doing so also. Students need to not just NEED to be TOLD to do something and just do it.

I'm glad they're doing this though. Some great stuff I'm seeing.

I'm ok with it. Don't make them signs but have a contest or something with Cyclone gear as a prize for the best big head/most creative sign. Whatev. Could do a stadium "applause-o-meter" vote for the best ones during one of the time out breaks or something.

**Messi** · 03-01-2012, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by RayShimley

I'm ok with it. Don't make them signs but have a contest or something with Cyclone gear as a prize for the best big head/most creative sign. Whatev. Could do a stadium "applause-o-meter" vote for the best ones during one of the time out breaks or something.

plus rep

**Rhoadhoused** · 03-01-2012, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Really, it should be something simple to solve. From how i see it youve got 2 main areas of issue that each require their own solution (and unfortunately twitter isnt made for complex responses):

Group A: never picks up their tickets at all, they sit unused for 100% of games.
Group B: picks up tickets but doesnt attend every game.

For group A, you need to find a way to reintroduce those tickets to other students and the public. If you go back to paper, you can just grab the box of un-picked up season ticket packages on gameday and make that game's tickets fair game a certain point before the game (maybe 30 minutes?). Alternately, at a certain point, notify those who havent picked up their season tix and give them the opportunity to sell back their tickets for a percentage so the AD can resell them earlier than gameday (win-win for both)

For group B, they've bothered to pick up their tickets (so theyve shown interest), so what you need to do is maximize the number that go, but also maximize the tickets that get into other people's hands of those that can't make every game (a sizable number no matter what section of the arena you talk about). To do that, you want to open the buyer pool as much as possible. Get rid of the CA shirt requirement (just make it a cardinal shirt), and allow students to resell tickets to the general public as GA balcony tickets (if the AD is already doing this for saturday's game, why shouldnt students be able to?).

And then finally, for sellouts, based on how season attendance has trended after doing those 2 above things (they should have the ability to do this with tickets scanning in now), you should do what we're doing for Baylor and sell some SRO seats.

I think if you did all that, you would maximize seats filled on a consistent basis. There still is the issue (primarily reflected in 'group A') of tickets getting sold during orientation to parents that are never used by kids but i doubt that's going away as its a quick way to get guaranteed money for the AD

When it comes to this year, all tickets are on ISU IDs so there is nobody who doesn't have immediate access to their tickets at all times. Agree with everything else you said though.

**JUKEBOX** · 03-01-2012, 07:57 PM

Can we tweet at them to shut down CA, or will they not do that?

**ISUAgronomist** · 03-01-2012, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by bostrem00

Selling out the student ticket allotment is a problem? They should try to oversell it to compensate for those who do not use their tickets....

Yes, it is sold out. The empty seat problem is being addressed today with SRO tickets. If the seats are still empty, even if sold, the AD will still pull that student ticket allotment and sell to the public as season tickets.

**IHavNoCyCash** · 03-01-2012, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by JUKEBOX

Can we tweet at them to shut down CA, or will they not do that?

no, it's all roses for them.

**alarson** · 03-01-2012, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

When it comes to this year, all tickets are on ISU IDs so there is nobody who doesn't have immediate access to their tickets at all times. Agree with everything else you said though.

You can't just resell your ISU ID though, so i'm not sure what you're saying.

**Rhoadhoused** · 03-01-2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

You can't just resell your ISU ID though, so i'm not sure what you're saying.

I was talking about the point where there are people who never picked up their tickets at all. If there were physical tickets it would be easy to just say if you didn't pick them up in the first month or w/e, that they would resell your tickets.

But since tickets are on IDs there is no distinction between not going to any games and not having any intention of going to games at all/lack of even knowing you have tickets.

**alarson** · 03-01-2012, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

I was talking about the point where there are people who never picked up their tickets at all. If there were physical tickets it would be easy to just say if you didn't pick them up in the first month or w/e, that they would resell your tickets.

But since tickets are on IDs there is no distinction between not going to any games and not having any intention of going to games at all/lack of even knowing you have tickets.

Yeah, thats why i started with 'if you go back to paper'. In addition to being more convenient for owner resale, it makes it a lot easier for the AD to resell those tickets if the game is otherwise sold out. Open them up shortly before tip. (and on the off chance they show up for their first game of the season after someone's already bought it, give them their remaining season tickets and issue them a SRO ticket for that game.. we have enough leeway it shouldnt be a problem)