We are a Top 15 team if...

we beat UNI and Drake. We would be 24-7. Other BCS teams in a similar situation:

#15 Indiana - 24-7
#14 Wisconsin - 23-8
#13 Georgetown - 22-7
#12 Baylor - 25-6
#10 Michigan - 23-8
#9 Marquette - 25-6
#8 Michigan State - 24-7

Those two losses are killing our seeding right now. Instead of the 7-8 seed we are currently projected to be, we would be up in the 3-4 range.

I'm not complaining because after the beginning of the season, I didn't think we would be anywhere near this position but its another one of those "what if" situations to think about.

Forget it. Move on.

No use worrying about it now.

Probably wouldn't have needed the wake up call from Willoughby (it was him right?) and things would be way different.

We would also be the number 1 team in the country if we didn't lose the other 7 games throughout the year.


Sorry, I have to give some crap....

That's the price we pay for having a team with little initial experience playing together in actual meaningful games. I'll gladly pay it at this point.

You could say we've grown into our #25 ranking. Without the preseason hype that most of the teams you mention we might be right where we are though. No one thought we would be good. No reason too either really. Objectively, some people knew we had talent but weren't sure how they would play together. Fred really has done a great job coaching this team. It will be one of my favorite teams ever - until next year!

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Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

Probably wouldn't have needed the wake up call fro Willoughby (it was him right?) and things would be way different.

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My thought as well. Early season losses can often be much more effective learning experiences than early season wins.

But we didn't so it's a really silly argument.

Everything that has happened this season has been for a reason - by losing to those crappy programs (sorry, but come on) it initiated the 'meeting' over Christmas.

Things started turning around...no ranking yet...guys get focused and play harder.

Win more games, including beating KU...no ranking yet...guys get focused and play harder.

Win more games, lose a couple stinkers (Texas, anyone?)...no ranking yet...

you get the idea.

Now that we are ranked (but just barely) and are fighting for a seed, it continues to motivate this team. They are not worrying about anything other than beating Texas - we shouldn't be either. Sure, it would be great to be in the top 15, but honestly I'd rather win the Big 12 tournament and go in as a 3/4/5 seed because of the momentum it would give us.

I still don't know how in the hell we lost to UNI at Hilton this year. They are a bad team.

I hope we beat them by 50 next year.

Blowing the games against KU and MU hurt much more than those two.

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Originally Posted by gocubs2118

Blowing the games against KU and MU hurt much more than those two.

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+1

We win those two, plus the ones against Texas and Okie State, we're sitting at 16-2 in conference.

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Originally Posted by cycloneworld

we beat UNI and Drake. We would be 24-7. Other BCS teams in a similar situation:

#15 Indiana - 24-7
#14 Wisconsin - 23-8
#13 Georgetown - 22-7
#12 Baylor - 25-6
#10 Michigan - 23-8
#9 Marquette - 25-6
#8 Michigan State - 24-7

Those two losses are killing our seeding right now. Instead of the 7-8 seed we are currently projected to be, we would be up in the 3-4 range.

I'm not complaining because after the beginning of the season, I didn't think we would be anywhere near this position but its another one of those "what if" situations to think about.

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I know what you mean and would sorely like to have those games back for the added respect and chance at a better seed. However, the important thing in my mind is that we have been playing as well as those teams or better in the last couple of months. Playing powerfully trumps a team with the appearance of power. I would rather be in the position we are in than some of these teams that played lesser competition and will face the best team they have played all year in the first or second round.

As stated above, those 2 losses were vital in giving this team the wake up call it needed. If we had won those 2 games, who's to say the guys wouldn't have continued to coast, not making the necessary changes, and only finished 6 or 7th in conference?

While not leaving the best taste in the mouths of fans, they were the boulders that catapulted this team to where it is today.