Bill Self basically saying Missouri has no fan support

**Knownothing** · 03-07-2012, 03:47 PM

In K.C. Wonder if Iowa State will outdraw everyone

Self ignites firestorm over city's allegiances

**cstrunk** · 03-07-2012, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

In K.C. Wonder if Iowa State will outdraw everyone

Self ignites firestorm over city's allegiances

Uhh no. We'll bring a lot of fans but KU will be #1 for sure, and it will be close between ISU, KSU, and MU I suspect.

**NATEizKING** · 03-07-2012, 03:50 PM

Does Missouri lose fans playing in the SEC? I don't see them gaining that is for sure.

**VeloClone** · 03-07-2012, 03:54 PM

What he is saying is that there are more KU fans in KC than misery fans and he is right. KSU, I don't know but that could be true also. KC is definitely a KU town, especially when you are talking basketball and that is what he was talking about.

Self subtext: In any case, KC remains a Big 12 town, not an SEC town so why not have the Big 12 tourney 45 minutes from Lawrence.

**Knownothing** · 03-07-2012, 04:27 PM

I do like how the closest school the KC will not be participating in the big 12 tourny their after this year. What a boneheaded decision for them to join the SEC.

**MissouriCyclone** · 03-07-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

I do like how the closest school the KC will not be participating in the big 12 tourny their after this year. What a boneheaded decision for them to join the SEC.

Lawrence and Manhattan are closer to KC than Mizzou.

**chuckd4735** · 03-07-2012, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

I do like how the closest school the KC will not be participating in the big 12 tourny their after this year. What a boneheaded decision for them to join the SEC.

Lawrence and Manhattan(although not by much) are both closer to KC then Columbia is...

**cy1010** · 03-07-2012, 04:29 PM

When I was living in the KC area it was a KU town during basketball season and an KSU town during football season.

**HFCS** · 03-07-2012, 04:31 PM

When bowl games are regularly taking teams like ISU and Kansas over you...with WORSE records...it means your fans suck or you have no fans.

Missouri is just not a college sports state. It's a state for fans of MLB, NFL and NASCAR.
I'm sure Missouri will be more of an afterthought in KC than they already are very soon.

**djcubby** · 03-07-2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

I do like how the closest school the KC will not be participating in the big 12 tourny their after this year. What a boneheaded decision for them to join the SEC.

Why wouldn't KU participate in the Big12 tourney? Is the conference finally changing the name??

**alarson** · 03-07-2012, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

I do like how the closest school the KC will not be participating in the big 12 tourny their after this year. What a boneheaded decision for them to join the SEC.

The closest school to KC (KU) will be competing in the big 12 tourney in KC after this year.
The second closest school (KSU, 4 miles shorter on google maps) will be competing in the big 12 tourney in KC after this year.
The 4th closest school (ISU) is only about 100 miles farther than Mizzou.

Still a bad decision for them to leave, but just a misconception that needs to be cleared. Just because KC is in Missouri doesnt mean the University of Missouri is its closest school, and it is still THE BEST location for the big 12 to hold its championships.

**MissouriCyclone** · 03-07-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by HFCS

When bowl games are regularly taking teams like ISU and Kansas over you...with WORSE records...it means your fans suck or you have no fans.

Missouri is just not a college sports state. It's a state for fans of MLB, NFL and NASCAR.
I'm sure Missouri will be more of an afterthought in KC than they already are very soon.

This is exactly what my MU friend says. He's really the only rational MU person I've talked to (says Haith didn't deserve COY, thinks SEC move is dumb, etc). He says this is why MU fans are cocky as well. If there was another major university they wouldn't be as ignorant. Missouri is a Royals/Cardinals and Chiefs state. I would ad Rams but don't know if they have a lot of fans.

**247cy** · 03-07-2012, 04:38 PM

Self ignites debate over KC's college allegiances - KansasCity.com

This article from Blair Kirkhoff has some numbers from the alumni associations of each school:

KU 57,000
KSU 28,000
MU 25,000

The numbers are just alumni, and do not cover tavern-tiger fans, etc. However, with those lopsided alumni figures in favor of Self's point, one has to figure the actual numbers are proportional.

**cydsho** · 03-07-2012, 04:38 PM

I grew up right on the mizzou border and remember seeing all kinds of mizzou flags, shirts, etc.......oh wait no I don't, I NEVER saw that. For having only 1 major university in the state, they have horrible support.

**cy1010** · 03-07-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

The closest school to KC (KU) will be competing in the big 12 tourney in KC after this year.
The second closest school (KSU, 4 miles shorter on google maps) will be competing in the big 12 tourney in KC after this year.
The 4th closest school (ISU) is only about 100 miles farther than Mizzou.

Still a bad decision for them to leave, but just a misconception that needs to be cleared. Just because KC is in Missouri doesnt mean the University of Missouri is its closest school, and it is still THE BEST location for the big 12 to hold its championships.

Especially when KC is actually in both states.