Another "look at me, look at me" piece by Shirley.... Not surprised.
What would be the reasoning to write this on the eve of the tournament? None.... What a *********
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Another "look at me, look at me" piece by Shirley.... Not surprised.
What would be the reasoning to write this on the eve of the tournament? None.... What a *********
Interesting read for sure. At first read I thought Paul (who I like) was being a little *****. But after thinking about it, it probably was a really crazy time.
For what it's worth, Keith Murphy asked Marcus Fizer on Twitter what he thought. To be fair, Fizer wasn't on the 2001 team, but here is what he said:
@MurphyKeith Thats unreal...and unbelievable to say the least...Wow
https://twitter.com/#!/MarcusFizerSr...59924901396480
I was being facetious with the condom remark. Several of his comments were about how we shouldn't help them because they are in a geographically disadvantageous area. So is New Orleans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ricochet
I think everyone knows it was crazy, everyone knows the team was not deep, was running on fumes, and everyone can assume some of the worst about LE at the time was true as LE himself would verify that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickTheGreat
The part I just can't get over is throwing Tinsley under the bus like that. ISU never comes anywhere near ANY of the success they had those two years without Tinsley.
If Royce has a bad game against UConn Shirley would say he drove the Cyclones into the ditch. Reality is the Cyclones would not have sniffed the big dance without Royce.
When Derek Rose had a bad series against the Heat last year in the playoffs, I guess Shirley thinks he drove the Bulls into the ditch. In reality he was an exhausted MVP who had carried his team to the leagues best record with almost no offensive help all year.
It's one of the more ungrateful things I've ever read. If someone had never watched those teams, you'd think Paul Shirley was the All American and Tinsley was some role player with an attitude. He leaves out the MAIN POINT that instead of being 2 seed, 2 seed, two years in a row they may not have even made the tournament without him.
He came out early in his pro career and looked phenomenal. He obviously lost focus and slipped in his personal and professional life, but seems to be doing well right now actually. It's revisionist history of the worst kind to act like he was anything but spectacular for ISU.
This is like Mario Chalmers writing a hit piece on LeBron James for not showing up in the fourth quarter of the NBA finals last year.
Only reason for Shirley and the Rag to bring this up now is to draw negative attention to the program and positive attention away from today's team. The timing is nasty.
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Originally Posted by carvers4math
I think it has as much to do with taking a shot at LE than ISU. He says nice things about Hoiberg. The timing may not be as much related to ISU's return to the tourney as LE's. And I'll bet he pitched the article to the Hattiesburg American newspaper before he gave it to the DM Register.
To be fair, I don't recall any aid rolling in from Haiti after Katrina. I think the point Shirley was trying to make, albeit clumsily, was how many times should we be throwing good money after bad. He had a legitimate point, but made it in a condescending tone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angie
I think you're right, and it sounded totally ethnocentric - there are way more US citizens who are in a financial position to aid the Haitians than in reverse. He was a huge **** about it, which is what my problem with him is. He's a smart guy, but pompous and Shirley-centric.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acylum
I agree, I don't think there are many people who would support the position he took in the article. It was a terrible thing to write, but I don't see the big deal with this piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angie
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Originally Posted by Drive4cy
This was my thought as I was reading the article. Not the time for this tone of an article....ISU and LE are both in the dance so lets take this time to make digs at past coaches and players?? Weak!
Thanks for your post. Even though there is probably some truth to the PS piece, I wondered if other players heard the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mwitt
And Paul, if your playing within the rules, it's all about the results. Your feelings come in second or third place.
If we are going to dig up old stuff about past coaches in the dance, I'd rather hear from those who fled Ames during the McDoorMat years. How many scholarship guys was Fred left with? And people wonder why he went out and got transfers.:rolleyes:
It is simple math: Eustachy's in the tournament for the first time since Hampton. ISU's in for the first time in a long time. Shirley has a unique perspective - having played, for ISU, for Eustachy.
Anyone who doesn't understand the "timing" of this piece is an idiot. When else would it run? July? The timing of this article is the least surprising thing about it.
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Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey
Yeah and if drinking makes people like you... Im glad I stopped Drinking......
Because i do NOT want to be a DRUNK like YOU!!!!!!!:yes: