Positive of Royce going pro

[NickTheGreat]

I'm assuming CFH has received substantive assurances that the bolded part will hold true for RW. Because if it doesn't, it will not be such a good thing for CFH.

Yeah. Cart is before horse here, but I don't think Royce would be leaving if he wasn't pretty damn sure

[jbhtexas]

As much as a positive it can be for Fred and ISU to have Royce make it in the NBA, could the opposite be said if Royce doesn't make it like CB and that in effect the program and Fred in a negative way?

If RW is a first round pick, I really don't see any negative effect for CFH, even if RW somehow doesn't make it in the NBA. If a coach puts his players in a position to make guaranteed first round money for two years, most would probably suspect any failures to be on the part of the player.

However, if a coach advises a player with two years of college eligibility left to enter that draft, and that players falls into the second round, I see that being a rather significant black eye for the coach.

[ty4cy90]

Have to disagree on the list of all-time great cyclones as well. I appreciate all that Royce has done in his two years here, but for me you need to make contributions on the court for at least two years, before you're considered next to guys like Fred, Hornacek, Cato, Grayer, Stevens, Jamaal, Fizer, and Sullivan.

[cyclonestate]

The player who will benefit the most from this latest development? Percy Gibson. He showed as a true freshman this year that he can be a real factor, and I know he was getting impatient about playing time. He, Booker, Georges Niange (sp?) are all going to get the opportunity to help fill some big shoes next year.

[Palmer]

Have to disagree on the list of all-time great cyclones as well. I appreciate all that Royce has done in his two years here, but for me you need to make contributions on the court for at least two years, before you're considered next to guys like Fred, Hornacek, Cato, Grayer, Stevens, Jamaal, Fizer, and Sullivan.

RW did just as much in 1 year for ISU (resurrecting from the hell McValley) days as many of those guys on the list.

[Kyle]

The player who will benefit the most from this latest development? Percy Gibson. He showed as a true freshman this year that he can be a real factor, and I know he was getting impatient about playing time. He, Booker, Georges Niange (sp?) are all going to get the opportunity to help fill some big shoes next year.

Agreed. Percy has already shown a nice touch around the hoop. His defensive awareness, passing, and physical abilities should all improve. Between him and Niang, I think we will have two very capable low-post scorers for several years to come. Our offense will look very different in coming years from what it did this year. My biggest concern for next year is whether our three-point shooting will be good enough to keep teams honest on defense. The loss of our two best three-point shooters could hurt more than we expect it to.

[IASTATE4LIFE]

I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.

[Wesley]

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[gogagig]

I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.

Fred disagrees with you. Email JP and tell him that Fred has no idea what he is talking about when he says "I know what it takes to get to the NBA"

[Clones21]

I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.

+1000000000

[mustangcy]

Short term...a hit. Long term...very positive for ISU. This is a good thing. We'll still be very good next year and the future is still extremly bright.

[ISUAgronomist]

I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.

Oh good grief.

[Clones21]

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Weird. Royce not in there.

[hoopitup]

His job is to win games and championships. It is not to put 4 or 5 star players in the NBA.

Correct-his job is to win games and championships.
Incorrect-It is not to put 4 or 5 star players in the NBA. On the contrary, his job also is to help these young men prepare for the next step in their life-whether that be entering the work force, playing professinally or remaining in school after their eligibility ends to help them achieve their degree.

[ISUAgronomist]

Weird. Royce not in there.

He hasn't announced yet.