Positive of Royce going pro

**awd4cy** · 03-21-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE

I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.

Royce leaving isn't going to prevent our team from doing bigger and better things next year.

**Clones21** · 03-21-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist

He hasn't announced yet.

He wasn't in the Undecided either.

**gogagig** · 03-21-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

He wasn't in the Undecided either.

He hasn't decided if he's undecided.

**JustRedman** · 03-21-2012, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by acgclone

Royce will help SELL the program to recruits and the public.

I hadn't really thought of his impact for us in the future...but that is a good point. Any time you have former players/coaches say they LOVED it in Ames (Hoiberg, Johnny, Dedric, White) it will resonate to the current players.
Dedric is credited with giving the speech that turned this team around this year. Royce will be giving speeches to future teams...right before the Final 4.

**GeronimusClone** · 03-26-2012, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Palmer

RW did just as much in 1 year for ISU (resurrecting from the hell McValley) days as many of those guys on the list.

That's a bold and ridiculous statement.

**heitclone** · 03-26-2012, 10:09 AM

I don't think FH is th reason Royce will get drafted, thats all on Royce. What having Royce here does do is give FH (and ISU) some street cred with high school kids. Getting into the tourney, playing 2 traditional powerhouses and having Royce get some of the limelight helped get ISU's name out there. Fred is still new to the NCAA bball scene, kids that are seniors this year have been on AAU and camp circuts for years now so to guys that like Fred and ISU are kind of late to the game but exposure like this for the program will help market Fred and ISU to future recruits.

**nhclone** · 03-26-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE

I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.

Anytime you recieve "+1000000000 " from Clones21, you should step back and realize how terrible that post was.

**benjay** · 03-26-2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE

I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.

This is why players don't let fans make decisions for them.

**Rural** · 03-26-2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE

I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.

Relax, it's the dawn of a new era.

One top 20 high school player leaves, two come in to take his place.

**SCarolinaCy** · 03-26-2012, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

There are very few positives of losing one of the greatest Cyclones ever.

However, one thing I can see looking great for Hoiberg is that his calling card as our coach was going to be putting guys in the NBA. Fred's connections to the NBA and high level of recruiting can now be tied together a little closer, vs being just speculation on what he can do.

It really sucks that Royce is going pro, bigtime. But this can only help Fred regarding other future recruits.

Ding