are we a basketball school again?

[psychlone99]

Not many people besides Cyclone fans would consider us either. We are maybe trending towards both, although MBB has a much bigger ceiling, IMO.

I agree, but I was answering the question from a Cyclone perspective, which means we have to take our own history/expectations in each sport into account. The past seasons were "solid" for both programs, historically speaking.

In my opinion, we are trending towards having consistently solid football and MBB teams. For football that means expecting 6/7 wins each season, and getting 8/9 win seasons here and there. For basketball that means being able to reasonably expect a NCAA tourney team most years, and occasionally finishing in the top 3 in the conference.

[theyork]

we don't have a winning overall record in either of those sports. can we legitimately call ourselves either?

[ISUAgronomist]

we don't have a winning overall record in either of those sports. can we legitimately call ourselves either?

If a winning record is so important

594–523–39 (.531)


I guess Iowa isn't much of a football school either.

[CYVADER]

we don't have a winning overall record in either of those sports. can we legitimately call ourselves either?

you know what I mean. we were tending toward being more fanatical toward football. now is say its swung back to basketball. this is just a statement about our fan base.

[kilgore_trout]

I could see the BB team being a top 15 program. Football not so much. Big fan of both programs, though.

[gocubs2118]

Like a lot have said, the ceiling in basketball is much higher than football. It's nearly impossible for us to be an elite program in football, it's much more attainable for basketball.

[acgclone]

we don't have a winning overall record in either of those sports. can we legitimately call ourselves either?

It's not fair to look at the entire history when evaluating these two sports.

KSU has a very bad overall football record, but would have certainly been considered a football school in throughout most of the 90's until Snyder retired. They seem to be trending back toward that now (Snyder part 2).

On the flip side, I'd be shocked if Minnesota doesn't hold a very good overall winning % in FB, but you certainly wouldn't consider them a football school.

I'm not saying 1-2 years makes a "football" or "MBB" school, but you shouldn't have to look back past say 5'ish years, IMO.

[Farnsworth]

Iowa State tailgating is some of the best outside the SEC, so I don't think we are just a basketball school.

[IHavNoCyCash]

we aren't considered either...until we crack the top 25 consistently for 5 years in one of the sports we are neither.

[isugcs]

Like a lot have said, the ceiling in basketball is much higher than football. It's nearly impossible for us to be an elite program in football, it's much more attainable for basketball.

This appears to be the prevailing view of most inside and outside the AD, but assure you Pollard is working to make FB program a top program(just look where the investments have been made). Luckily we're in a conference were we have the exposure and competition to be top 15 every year (just win). But also, FB is where the investment is going (score board, stadium concessions/bathrooms, future endzone bowl in).

[acgclone]

This appears to be the prevailing view of most inside and outside the AD, but assure you Pollard is working to make FB program a top program(just look where the investments have been made). Luckily we're in a conference were we have the exposure and competition to be top 15 every year (just win). But also, FB is where the investment is going (score board, stadium concessions/bathrooms, future endzone bowl in).

We are making investments into our FB facilities, but much of that is just the bare minimum to stay in our relatively, close to the bottom of the conference position (where we've always been). It's not as if the rest of the B12 isn't investing as much or far more in their FB facilities.

Due to the future conference TV contracts, we will at least be able to distance ourselves from mid-major schools, which historically we have been closer to than the "football" schools in the BCS leagues from a facility standpoint.

[isuno1fan]

There is nothing like college FB. There is nothing like ISU college FB at JTS.

Win or lose...can't wait.

[Frak]

I think that MBB being actually decent has kept fans' minds off of FB a little. It used to be that we were focused on spring practice and looking forward to it while MBB season was windng down. This year, the MBB team kept us interested, so we didn't really turn our attention to FB as early.

[gocubs2118]

This appears to be the prevailing view of most inside and outside the AD, but assure you Pollard is working to make FB program a top program(just look where the investments have been made). Luckily we're in a conference were we have the exposure and competition to be top 15 every year (just win). But also, FB is where the investment is going (score board, stadium concessions/bathrooms, future endzone bowl in).

What else can we really do to improve the basketball facilities? Maybe upgrade the outside of Hilton? Ever since the basketball facility was built, there hasn't been that much to do. All the money should go into the football program and that's coming from a basketball first guy.

[isugcs]

What else can we really do to improve the basketball facilities? Maybe upgrade the outside of Hilton? Ever since the basketball facility was built, there hasn't been that much to do. All the money should go into the football program and that's coming from a basketball first guy.

I guess because I'm a football first guy and I'd like to think we're putting emphasis on FB. However, you're right there really isn't much to do for BB now with the BB facility. I do believe for AD sustainability, we must have a successfull FB program and we're in a position to work towards that end. More than likely if we're going to build the program, we're in year 4 of a required 10-15 years of bowls and competitiveness.