This years team vs Last years team

[pulse]

The point isn't the seed, its that the team last year is probably greatly underrated and being much better than last years will prove difficult. I think last years team was probably in reality a Top 15 team.

[cyclones500]

I think we'll be MUCH better at the beginning of the year. Last year we essentially had a brand new team. While we do have new players this year, I don't think the transition will be as long as it was last year.

I agree it won't take as long for the team to get into a flow.

[cyclones500]

I think last years team was probably in reality a Top 15 team.

Down the stretch, for sure.

I feel like this year's team will end up with a similar record, similar tournament placement, but it'll be spread more evenly over the entire season.

[cyclones500]

We screwed the pooch against Texas. Only ourselves to blame for the seed.

Don't get me started again on UT loss being the sole reason for ISU's seeding "predicament."

[Cydkar]

Don't get me started again on UT loss being the sole reason for ISU's seeding "predicament."

Not the sole reason but if we win that game you never know. My basic point is that we deserved our seed after that game.

[cyclones500]

Not the sole reason but if we win that game you never know. My basic point is that we deserved our seed after that game.

The loss didn't help. I won't refute that.

[Cydkar]

The loss didn't help. I won't refute that.

Generally speaking, losing doesn't help.

[goclones69]

we will have a target on our backs this year, as last year noone expected anything from us

[josh4isu]

we will have a target on our backs this year, as last year noone expected anything from us

it wont be as big as you might think. we'll pry get picked 6-8 place. people who arent fans will expect a drop off following royce's departure. it will definitely provide for some motivation

[cyclones500]

Generally speaking, losing doesn't help.

Well-played.

[Rural]

Roster depth has progressed nicely during Fred's run.

Trying to predict how a season will play out this far in advance is folly (unless in I.C.).

[nallen34]

Losing Royce, Scott, and Allen we lose 38 pts, 15 rebounds, 10 assists, 2 steals, and 1 block per game.


Clyburn will get 15 pts, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1 steal per game.

Lucious will get 8 pts, 2 rebounds, 5 assists, and 1 steal per game.

Niang will get 6 pts, 3 rebounds, and 1 assist per game.


Booker will get 3 more pts per game, 2 more rebounds per game, and 1 more block per game. A total of 7 pts, 6 rebounds, and 1.5 blocks per game.

Gibson will get 3 more pts per game, and 2 more rebounds per game. A total of 8 pts and 4 rebounds per game.

Babb will get 2 more pts per game, and 1 more assist per game. A total of 10 pts 3 assists per game.

Tyrus will get 2 more pts per game, and 1 more assist per game. A total of 10 pts 2 assists per game.


I don't think there will be much change in Ejim's or Bubu's stats.


So the overall stats will look like this:

Clyburn: 30 mpg, 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 2 apg, 1 spg
Babb: 30 mpg 10 ppg, 4 rpg, 3 apg, 1 spg
Lucious: 30 mpg, 8 ppg, 2 rpg, 5 apg, 1 spg
Ejim: 25 mpg, 9 ppg, 7 rpg, 1 apg, 1 spg
McGee: 20 mpg, 10 ppg, 3 rpg, 2 apg, 1 spg
Booker: 20 mpg, 7 ppg, 6 rpg, 1.5 bpg, 1 spg
Gibson: 20 mpg, 8 ppg, 4 rpg, .5 bpg
Niang: 15 mpg, 6 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg
Bubu: 10 mpg, 4 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 1.5 apg, .5 spg

[nallen34]

I never really took into consideration that our scout team is not going to be as good this year.

Last years scout team was:

Lucious
Sledge
Law/McBeth
Clyburn
Railey

This years scout team:

Naz/Fowler
Law/McBeth
Dorsey-Walker
Okoro
Ellerman

Even though Lucious and Clyburn didn't play last year competition in practice was better last year. Royce was playing against Clyburn. Allen vs Lucious. Now Clyburn will be against Dorsey-Walker and Lucious against Naz.

Just like in 2010-11 the only reason we competed every night is because Diante, Jake, Scott, Ejim, and Jaime played against Royce, Booker, Babb, and Allen every day in practice.

I really hope the fact that we are not playing against any experienced upperclassmen/transfers in practice doesn't hurt us this year. I hope the fact that we have 6 returning players, 7 upperclassmen, and great depth at every position in our top 9 man rotation will help make up for the downgrade in talent that we will be facing in practice.

[Rural]

I never really took into consideration that our scout team is not going to be as good this year.

Last years scout team was:

Lucious
Sledge
Law/McBeth
Clyburn
Railey

This years scout team:

Naz/Fowler
Law/McBeth
Dorsey-Walker
Okoro
Ellerman

Even though Lucious and Clyburn didn't play last year competition in practice was better last year. Royce was playing against Clyburn. Allen vs Lucious. Now Clyburn will be against Dorsey-Walker and Lucious against Naz.

Just like in 2010-11 the only reason we competed every night is because Diante, Jake, Scott, Ejim, and Jaime played against Royce, Booker, Babb, and Allen every day in practice.

I really hope the fact that we are not playing against any experienced upperclassmen/transfers in practice doesn't hurt us this year. I hope the fact that we have 6 returning players, 7 upperclassmen, and great depth at every position in our top 9 man rotation will help make up for the downgrade in talent that we will be facing in practice.

These two will play more than you think.
I think we'll have no trouble having good competitive practices.

[nallen34]

These two will play more than you think.
I think we'll have no trouble having good competitive practices.

Playing against Clyburn and Lucious in practice is a lot harder than playing against Naz and Okoro in practice. Naz and Okoro might get 2-5 minutes per game. We have a 9 man rotation already without them. Unless they are phenomenal they wont see the court much.