Peter Jok to Iowa

**Clones21** · 09-20-2012, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by AltHawk

This couldn't be more wrong. Fred was recruiting Woodbury until he realized he had no chance with him. In the past couple years, Iowa has had Barnes, Paige, Woodbury, and Gessel (technically Nebraska, but plays AAU in Iowa) as 4* or 5* players. A team with those four guys (plus McDermott, Oglesby, and others I'm forgetting) would compete in any conference in the country and likely be a top 4-5 seed.

Woodbury is overrated and looked like garbage in the state title game. Got pushed around like a rag doll. Also Oglesby, Paige and Gessel have not proven themselves yet. So I don't consider them great "college" players yet.

**swarthmoreCY** · 09-20-2012, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

Hope this a joke. The only reason Fran gets the Iowa kids is because Freddy is out getting better players from different states..

Agreed. Except for Woodbury, who we did recruit for awhile.

**SplitIdentity** · 09-20-2012, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by AltHawk

This couldn't be more wrong. Fred was recruiting Woodbury until he realized he had no chance with him. In the past couple years, Iowa has had Barnes, Paige, Woodbury, and Gessel (technically Nebraska, but plays AAU in Iowa) as 4* or 5* players. A team with those four guys (plus McDermott, Oglesby, and others I'm forgetting) would compete in any conference in the country and likely be a top 4-5 seed.

Don't waste your time. 21 has ear muffs installed in his helmet. He can't hear you.

**CyJack13** · 09-20-2012, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

Woodbury is overrated and looked like garbage in the state title game. Got pushed around like a rag doll. Also Oglesby, Paige and Gessel have not proven themselves yet. So I don't consider them great "college" players yet.

I like that we decided who is overrated before they even play a single college game.

**swarthmoreCY** · 09-20-2012, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

I like that we decided who is overrated before they even play a single college game.

No different than thinking they will do well before they even play a single college game.

**00clone** · 09-21-2012, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by Clones21

Hope this a joke. The only reason Fran gets the Iowa kids is because Freddy is out getting better players from different states. Iowa isn't really a big basketball state. Only a few great players come around Iowa every 10 years.

Originally Posted by AltHawk

This couldn't be more wrong. Fred was recruiting Woodbury until he realized he had no chance with him. In the past couple years, Iowa has had Barnes, Paige, Woodbury, and Gessel (technically Nebraska, but plays AAU in Iowa) as 4* or 5* players. A team with those four guys (plus McDermott, Oglesby, and others I'm forgetting) would compete in any conference in the country and likely be a top 4-5 seed.

Congratulations on making his point while trying to prove it wrong. So...Iowa has produced 6 four or five star players (one of which isn't even from Iowa as you freely admitted) in the 'last few years'. Ummm....that's not very many compared to states that fill several teams' worth of those each year.

Can someone check, are the Hawkeye Nation boards still down?

*edit: I should have figured it would take a Hawkeye fan for me to agree with clones21...

**SeeCyGoByeBye** · 09-21-2012, 03:02 AM

not a surprise with Horner being the coach. thought Jok had injury issues last year.

**gbaba** · 09-21-2012, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by AltHawk

This couldn't be more wrong. Fred was recruiting Woodbury until he realized he had no chance with him. In the past couple years, Iowa has had Barnes, Paige, Woodbury, and Gessel (technically Nebraska, but plays AAU in Iowa) as 4* or 5* players. A team with those four guys (plus McDermott, Oglesby, and others I'm forgetting) would compete in any conference in the country and likely be a top 4-5 seed.

Any team, that is, except the halks!

**nj829** · 09-21-2012, 07:52 AM

dang, somebody laid out some troll bait again.

**IASTATE4LIFE** · 09-21-2012, 07:54 AM

If he makes it to Iowa, I say congratulations to Jok. Fred did not want him anyway, and with the injuries he has overcome can't we all be happy for an Iowa kid to make it to a D1 program. I have seen him play in the gym(here in ames, using our facilities) and he is silky smooth. If he stays healthy and gains 25 pounds of muscle, he has some real potential. I hope he has success and has a great career, just not against ISU.

**Hawkeye11en1** · 09-21-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by gbaba

Any team, that is, except the halks!

I can't tell if you don't know how to spell or if that is supposed to be an insult.

**Gonzo** · 09-21-2012, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

I like that we decided who is overrated before they even play a single college game.

It's pretty simple. If they commit to Iowa, they suck, are overrated, won't amount to much. If they commit to ISU, the talent is obvious and the upside is through the roof.

**SplitIdentity** · 09-21-2012, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE

If he makes it to Iowa, I say congratulations to Jok. Fred did not want him anyway, and with the injuries he has overcome can't we all be happy for an Iowa kid to make it to a D1 program. I have seen him play in the gym(here in ames, using our facilities) and he is silky smooth. If he stays healthy and gains 25 pounds of muscle, he has some real potential. I hope he has success and has a great career, just not against ISU.

Now, I just can't let this one go. Isn't this the exact line that ISU fans get Iowa fans so much grief over? If Jok turns out to be the player he had the potential of being pre-injury, I can guarantee you that Fred would have wanted him. Fred just apparently didn't see the need to take the risk, while Fran only had one scholly, so if he's a bust it wouldn't have made much of a difference anyways.

**acgclone** · 09-21-2012, 08:57 AM

[QUOTE=SplitIdentity;3061658]Now, I just can't let this one go. Isn't this the exact line that ISU fans get Iowa fans so much grief over? If Jok turns out to be the player he had the potential of being pre-injury, I can guarantee you that Fred would have wanted him. Fred just apparently didn't see the need to take the risk, while Fran only had one scholly, so if he's a bust it wouldn't have made much of a difference anyways.[/QUOTE]

I've read this on HN. I'm not sure how a bust with only 1 scholarship is better than a bust with 5-6. In fact, I think it's the opposite.

Anyway, I agree that Fran saw the risk as worth taking, and Fred didn't. Only time will tell which strategy was right.

I happen to think you could have done a lot worse. IMO, worst case scenario, Jok ends up being a sort of 1-dimensional player who can shoot lights out. If his knee recovers fully and stays healthy, he could end up being a big time player.