USA Today Loves the Big 10....again

**BigBake** · 10-08-2012, 09:39 AM

As expected the media is once again salivating over the Big 10. Apparently Missouri was the only bball school we had in the Big 12 and it'd departure is the only noteworthy item for this year.

Five things to watch for college hoops season

I don't usually read the USA Today but it was the free paper at the hotel.

**Rural** · 10-08-2012, 10:18 AM

Yeah, yeah they love them some Big Ten yet not one word about the rising juggernaut in that league.

**madcityCY** · 10-08-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by BigBake

As expected the media is once again salivating over the Big 10. Apparently Missouri was the only bball school we had in the Big 12 and it'd departure is the only noteworthy item for this year.

Five things to watch for college hoops season

I don't usually read the USA Today but it was the free paper at the hotel.

If you're taking a cursory look at the conferences (as the article is), the loss of Missouri does hurt the Big12 at the top. Last year, it was KU - MU, the ISU - BU. the top player (names) are gone (TRob, Royce, PJ3, etc.), so they're really isn't much to say.

at least in the preseason, I'm not sure what other conference to hype? It might not be deserved, but I don't think we know that yet.

for the record, I think the Big 12 will be tough 1-8, with quite a bit of parity. But on paper, I don't think it has a championship caliber team.

**Hawkeye11en1** · 10-08-2012, 10:20 AM

How is this wrong?

**CLONECONES** · 10-08-2012, 10:20 AM

Indiana might actually be the real deal tho

**Jay_Clone** · 10-08-2012, 10:26 AM

I dont have any issues with this acticle. You read it in the free hotel paper and then searched it out online? Why waste your time if you didn't enjoy it the first time?

**CyJack13** · 10-08-2012, 10:26 AM

We have some of the most insecure fans in the country. The B10 was the best basketball conference in the country last year, and there is a good chance they will be again.

**SplitIdentity** · 10-08-2012, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by BigBake

As expected the media is once again salivating over the Big 10. Apparently Missouri was the only bball school we had in the Big 12 and it'd departure is the only noteworthy item for this year.

Five things to watch for college hoops season

I don't usually read the USA Today but it was the free paper at the hotel.

Big10 should only be stronger than last year, and last year they were the best. RPI proves it. 2011-2012 Men's College Basketball Conference RPI - WarrenNolan.com

NCAA Basketball RPI Ratings - NCAA BB Overall RPI Rtg Conference Ratings on TeamRankings.com

NCAA College Basketball Conference RPI - CBSSports.com

RealTimeRPI.com Men's College Basketball Rating Percentage Index (RPI) Ratings - A leading sports ratings and resources community on the Internet

So, what's your issue?

**Hawkeye11en1** · 10-08-2012, 10:33 AM

^^ You didn't cite wikipedia. Therefore I give your post no credibility.

**SplitIdentity** · 10-08-2012, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1

^^ You didn't cite wikipedia. Therefore I give your post no credibility.

I respectfully ask you to eat **** and die. Kthanxbye

**brett108** · 10-08-2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Big10 should only be stronger than last year, and last year they were the best. RPI proves it. 2011-2012 Men's College Basketball Conference RPI - WarrenNolan.com

NCAA Basketball RPI Ratings - NCAA BB Overall RPI Rtg Conference Ratings on TeamRankings.com

NCAA College Basketball Conference RPI - CBSSports.com

RealTimeRPI.com Men's College Basketball Rating Percentage Index (RPI) Ratings - A leading sports ratings and resources community on the Internet

So, what's your issue?

RPI doesn't prove anything. There are only about 100 articles by basketball experts across the country that illustrate how bad the model is. Not saying the Big10 was not good, but you can't just say RPI says so and go about your day.

**chuckd4735** · 10-08-2012, 10:52 AM

I see nothing wrong with that article. The Big 10 was one of the better conference in Basketball last season and should be even better this season. Also, losing Missouri does hurt the Big 12.

**VeloClone** · 10-08-2012, 10:53 AM

From last year the Big 12 loses:

Misery (RPI 12)
Aggy (166)
Average of 89

They replace them with:
WVU (61)
TCU (119)
Average of 90

Looks pretty much like a wash. Not as strong at the top but more depth. Obviously these are last year's numbers and they don't predict what these squads are going to do this year. Missouri isn't perrenially that strong but why quibble about it. The Big 12 doesn't look greatly affected by the change.

As far as the Big 10, they were RPI #1 last year and a 81% non-con win percentage (Div 1 only). Big 12 was #3 with a 79% non-con win percentage.

I'm not sure what the problem is. It looks to me like the Big 10 was the clear #1 last year.

**CyJack13** · 10-08-2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by brett108

RPI doesn't prove anything. There are only about 100 articles by basketball experts across the country that illustrate how bad the model is. Not saying the Big10 was not good, but you can't just say RPI says so and go about your day.

It's not just RPI. The Sagarin rankings had the B10 number one last year, as did KenPom.

USA TODAY

**brett108** · 10-08-2012, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

It's not just RPI. The Sagarin rankings had the B10 number one last year, as did KenPom.

USA TODAY

I like KenPom, and I am not saying they weren't. I just hate using RPI exclusively as the decider. The Big10 was good last year. That being said, as dependant as BB is on incoming freshman, I don't think anyone can say who the top conferences are going to be this year. And Mizzou lost alot from last years team.