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Re: Free throw troubles
 Originally Posted by CLONECONES I think he was like 01-04... but other than SC no one is really sticking out in my head as being amazing at FTs Dodie was something like 82%, but he wasn't here for long. I just remember that he rarely missed. And I think he was pretty good from the 3, but I don't remember his percentages.
But I think the OP asked if people who are great from the 3 are usually great from the FT line - wasn't Mike Taylor pretty awful from the FT line? I don't remember for sure, but I do remember him going off and hitting something like 23 3s in the game at Minnesota.
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Bryan Peterson shot 85% in '08
Diante had like 83% in '10
John Neal shot 100% in 05
bout all i could find that could hang with scottie and sullivan
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I have to admit, I can't even picture this guy although I am sure I would recognize him if I saw him, but Bryan Peterson was a good free throw shooter. .850 his last year at ISU and .820 his junior year. Didn't mean to repeat what was already said. I'm sure we could find some more if we went back into the annals.
Last edited by mitten1975; 11-27-2012 at 01:45 PM.
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Re: Free throw troubles
 Originally Posted by mitten1975 I have to admit, I can't even picture this guy although I am sure I would recognize him if I saw him, but Bryan Peterson was a good free throw shooter. .850 his last year at ISU and .820 his junior year. Petey was awesome, very dedicated - he's currently a grad assistant. Reminded me a little bit of Scotty in terms of looks. Could drain the 3.
ETA: Ah, here's a picture: Bryan Petersen - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports
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I remember Ejim being really good last year, I'm sure he'll come around this year.
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 Originally Posted by cyclone87 What was our free throw percentage in the UNLV game? Seemed to be much better, although we didn't shoot that many (maybe like 10). 88.9% That is Clyburn 8-8 and the rest of the team 0-1. The real problem as far as free throws in that game is how does ISU get 9 attempts and UNLV get 30 something?
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Re: Free throw troubles
I remember him. I have been running around the world, and so was gone during much of Eustachy, and Wade Morgan. I came back and was very busy during McDermott, and didn't like the way he coached. I have confidence in Hoiberg. He has really impressed me the way he adjusts to his talent. I think what people don't often realize, when you have someone like Hoiberg, who makes adjustments based on ever-changing talent, the team will have some games when they don't play anywhere near their potential at the first of the year. If you put people in a pre-conceived system, they may play with more assurance at the beginning of the year, but you may miss taking advantage of the talent you have on the team so that the team has no chance to really peak. McDermott and Hoiberg are opposite philosophies of coaching and Eustachy and Floyd were more like McDermott, but more successful with their systems while Johnny Orr was more like Hoiberg. Still Orr and Hoiberg are different, and I have great hopes for Hoiberg's coaching style since I believe it could consistently attract great talent.
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Who's Wade Morgan? Oh you must mean the head mens tennis coach at Schreiner University: -
Re: Free throw troubles
 Originally Posted by VeloClone 88.9% That is Clyburn 8-8 and the rest of the team 0-1. The real problem as far as free throws in that game is how does ISU get 9 attempts and UNLV get 30 something? I agree with this. That was either a ref problem, or we weren't trying to take it inside and instead working for jump shots. Perhaps UNLV's big men were too much for our guys. I couldn't see the game, and haven't heard anyone talk about these issues specifically.
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Re: Free throw troubles
 Originally Posted by mitten1975 I remember him. I have been running around the world, and so was gone during much of Eustachy, and Wade Morgan. I came back and was very busy during McDermott, and didn't like the way he coached. I have confidence in Hoiberg. He has really impressed me the way he adjusts to his talent. I think what people don't often realize, when you have someone like Hoiberg, who makes adjustments based on ever-changing talent, the team will have some games when they don't play anywhere near their potential at the first of the year. If you put people in a pre-conceived system, they may play with more assurance at the beginning of the year, but you may miss taking advantage of the talent you have on the team so that the team has no chance to really peak. McDermott and Hoiberg are opposite philosophies of coaching and Eustachy and Floyd were more like McDermott, but more successful with their systems while Johnny Orr was more like Hoiberg. Still Orr and Hoiberg are different, and I have great hopes for Hoiberg's coaching style since I believe it could consistently attract great talent. Yes, Johnny learned the alphabet: A, B, C, E, F, G, H,...
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Re: Free throw troubles
 Originally Posted by cyclonestunners I don't understand how we are so bad at free throws. We're currently shooting 65% from the line. This coming from a team that has a coach that hit 252/253 free throws in the Shots from the Heart competition? That seems unacceptable, especially compared to the other coaches that are good at free throws:
81%: Steve Alford's New Mexico Lobos
78%: Sean Miller's Arizona Wildcats
Also, aren't 3 point shooters usually good at Freethrows too?
I could see this losing us a lot of games this year. I'm bothered by it because it seems easy to change, and we should be good at... as opposed to rebounding, which I have no idea how we're so good at. Small sample sizes for both, although you can't get 20+ offensive rebounds against teams like Cincinatti and UNLV without something going on (and missing a lot of shots).
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Re: Free throw troubles
 Originally Posted by VeloClone Yes, Johnny learned the alphabet: A, B, C, E, F, G, H,... I see what you did there.
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Re: Free throw troubles
 Originally Posted by mitten1975 I remember him. I have been running around the world, and so was gone during much of Eustachy, and Wade Morgan. I came back and was very busy during McDermott, and didn't like the way he coached. I have confidence in Hoiberg. He has really impressed me the way he adjusts to his talent. I think what people don't often realize, when you have someone like Hoiberg, who makes adjustments based on ever-changing talent, the team will have some games when they don't play anywhere near their potential at the first of the year. If you put people in a pre-conceived system, they may play with more assurance at the beginning of the year, but you may miss taking advantage of the talent you have on the team so that the team has no chance to really peak. McDermott and Hoiberg are opposite philosophies of coaching and Eustachy and Floyd were more like McDermott, but more successful with their systems while Johnny Orr was more like Hoiberg. Still Orr and Hoiberg are different, and I have great hopes for Hoiberg's coaching style since I believe it could consistently attract great talent. This is true. I truly believe this is why the Big 12 struggles a bit in the non-conference at times. Many of their teams play a more NBA style, and it's filled with bad-decision making early on in the year. However, by the end of the season, the Big 12 improves more than any other conference.
Iowa State will be great this year, Hoiberg is a genius coach.
Very true on the bold part.
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The most overrated aspect of Hoiberg's coaching is his ability to magically cure his players' shooting ails. These guys aren't in 4th grade. The shots they have now are pretty much going to be what they have for their career. How many players have you ever seen successfully change their mechanics? (Yes, I'm aware of Hornacek) Free throws only get better with repetition, focus, and shooting in game situations. It is up to the individual.
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Sullivan is the last great FT shooter we've had who played significantly and shot a reasonable amount of FTs.
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