I'm a good lip reader, and........

[peteypie]

T.J. was telling Fred from as hot as they've been from 3 we got to foul. Fred, without hesitation, turned and said NO. Different situation, because there was over 20 seconds left, but Fred stuck to his guns...................discuss.

[KFitzy87]

Against Kansas Fred was a *******, tonight he was a genius.

Of course.

[Clones21]

Interesting if true...

[zwclones51]

I caught that as well. Don't kno what context TJ was talkin about but it was something regarding a foul.

[TurbulentEddie]

WVU shoots 28% from 3, and there's no such thing as a "hot hand." So I have no problem with CFH's decision. Actually kind of surprised Otz suggested fouling, he seems like a stats guy.

[peteypie]

WVU shoots 28% from 3, and there's no such thing as a "hot hand." So I have no problem with CFH's decision. Actually kind of surprised Otz suggested fouling, he seems like a stats guy.

28% but they were 0-11 or 12, then they were lights out once the refs helped get them back in the game, way over 60%

[azepp]

WVU shoots 28% from 3, and there's no such thing as a "hot hand." So I have no problem with CFH's decision. Actually kind of surprised Otz suggested fouling, he seems like a stats guy.

Did you watch tonight's game?

[CyFan61]

Even when he made the shot there was more than 11 seconds left. That is way too early to foul.

[mtowncyclone13]

I wish I made 250k/year to not be listened to.

[peteypie]

I wish I made 250k/year to not be listened to.

Fred made the right call at ku, backfired, fred made the same right call tonight, it worked out. Let me Mayor Coach.

[TurbulentEddie]

Did you watch tonight's game?

Yes. Statistical anomalies, they happen sometimes!

[swarthmoreCY]

Whatever it is, we need to do something from preventing a team from finishing the game 9-12, and worse yet, hit 3 in the final 1:50 of the game. Sure they were hot, and hitting from deep. But with an 8 point lead with 1:50 remaining, you cannot let them get back in the game by hitting 3 pointers.

[simply1]

Yes. Statistical anomalies, they happen sometimes!

Thus "hot hand". You ever played hoops before? Players certainly get hot, I know I did from time to time.

[azepp]

Yes. Statistical anomalies, they happen sometimes!

Sure, but humans aren't robots. Basketball is a mental game, and a player's or team's mental state can have a significant impact on the statistics.

[TurbulentEddie]

Thus "hot hand". You ever played hoops before? Players certainly get hot, I know I did from time to time.

Did you ever tally your shooting percentage after making two in a row? Three in a row? Etc? This exercise has been run many times on many players, many leagues, etc. The results pretty much come out that your chance of making a shot after making x in a row is the same as if you just missed one. Ever miss a shot when "you're feeling it?"

Anyway, there's a whole Wikipedia article about this topic and tons of statistical studies. Maybe I should ping khaal and see if he'd like to do a joint writeup on this using ISU players' stats (or whoever's stats people would like to see) if people are really interested.