Wooee coach...things just got a whole lot more interesting

[bawbie]

Ask me next Tuesday.

I'd guess Kansas will right the ship quickly, but that's two poorly played games in a row, and they are @OU on Sat then home against KSU Monday. They could easily lose both of those games.

Add those in with us @KSU and OSU @Tex, I think the picture could become a lot clearer on Tuesday. Or it could be just as muddy.

I think OSU has a real shot at the conference, or I would think that if I thought Ford was any good at coaching. They have started to gel, and have all the pieces to be a conference champ, including a stud who can take over a game in Smart.

[chuckd4735]

Kansas will win out. I hope I'm wrong and hope we can beat them at home, but Kansas will turn it around. Even if we win out and Kansas only loses to us, they still are the one seed.

I drink a lot if kool aid myself, but would not be surprised to see us finish 2nd-4th in conference.

Not if TCU were to finish above Tech!

I would be surprised if any team in the Big 12 wins out. I think Kansas will still win this thing, but I highly doubt they win out.

[Wesley]

I wish KU had lost to some other team other than TCU. The humiliation of the TCU defeat is going to shake them out of any complacency and propel them to the conference championship. They're not going to "take it easy" for a single second, anymore.

KU keeps running plays for some of their guards who are not producing. The offense for KU needs some tweaking. 5 star Elijah Johnson is turning out to be a liability.

[cyclones12321]

Kansas will win. I dont see KU losing any more then 4 conference games. KSU still has to play @KU, @OSU and @BU, OSU still has to come to Ames and play KU at home, and ISU still has to go to Waco and Manhattan, on top of playing OSU and KU in Ames.

Here are my predictions mid-way through this using mred's Big 12 Tournament Bracket Generator...

1. Kansas (15 - 3)
2. Iowa State (13 - 5)
3. Oklahoma State (12 - 6)
4. Kansas State (12 - 6)
5. Baylor (11 - 7)
6. Oklahoma (10 - 8)
7. West Virginia (7 - 11)
8. Texas (6 - 12)
9. Texas Tech (3 - 15)
10. TCU (1 - 17)

I'd take this, hope isu wins the conference but i think Ku will pull it off.

[MeanDean]

Kansas will manage to win the league again.

This

[Wesley]

This

I do not know this for sure. Have they lost to a #209 TCU before in conference?

[cyclones500]

Kansas remains in the driver's seat, and got my poll vote.

KU is still in first, with a tiebreaker advantage over K-State, which it already beat on the road, is one game ahead of OSU and has a 1-game advantage on Iowa State with a head-to-head boost.

If anything, a home loss to Oklahoma State and a horrendous loss @TCU shows that Kansas isn't infallible, and it put several other teams within range of stealing the title, when that wasn't the case two weeks ago.

Unless KU falls a full game behind someone else, Jayhawks still have an inside track.

[carvers4math]

I suppose it will be Kansas but maybe ISU or OSU.

OSU must borrow Colfax-Mingo refs at their place, Baylor couldn't get a call there down the stretch either.

[erikbj]

If ISU can pull off Saturday night, I think they can win or tie for 1st place in the league. This team is coming together just like last year minus having to rely on 1 player (although RW was pretty good). There are 6 guys can that lead this team any particluar evening, that balance will help them win some of these tough games on the road and protect home court.

[EYEoftheSTORM]

The KU vs TCU game was a fluke. We can't judge KU based on that game, just like you can't judge ISU after the tech game. Nothing was falling. They're still a very good team, and will probably win the Big XII unless KSU, ISU, or OSU can win out or max 1 loss.

And what will you say if KU loses Saturday at a very dangerous OU who played them very well in Lawrence.. Dropping 3 in a row.The fact is that KU has starters that contend with any team out there but the have a very very young bench that makes them vulnerable at times. To say the race for the XII title is naïve in the very unpredictable XII conference season..

[Cyclonestate78]

I think finally this is the year Kansas fails to win the conference title. They have trouble scoring and are averaging just over 60 points per game in conference play and as we saw last night.... their struggles are getting worse.

[wonkadog]

I would agree with many who say they are not as good as in years past, I just don't see us or OSU going on a run that would be needed to catch them.

[megamanxzero35]

Bill Self has routinely said that the hardest part of winning these consecutive Big 12 titles is making sure his current players don't think/feel that because they play for Kansas a Big 12 title will fall in their lap. Maybe this year's team is the team that doesn't fully appreciate that message.

There was a great locker room speech from last year where he said it wasn't 8 titles. It was 3 for Robinson, it was 1 for his freshman, it was 2 for the sophomores, etc.

[WalkingCY]

The Cyclones.

[megamanxzero35]

First to

If we could start three guys, we’d do that. They make us run five out there. I don’t know who deserves to start.”

A quote from Self. Wow. Shots fired at his team.