Timeouts

[Bigman38]

I think lately Fred has been getting the match ups he wants so he doesn't want to call a TO and give the D a chance to adjust. The problem is we have done a terrible job of taking advantage of those match ups in crunch time. I don't think running an iso for Clyburn is the answer for a late game bucket so hopefully we get a little more creative at the end of the game.

[VeloClone]

I gotta quit coming on here after a loss. This place is ridiculous after a loss.

Fred used and needed every one of the three timeouts he had left in the second half and still people are ******** about it. When someone gets trapped on the corner or can't get the ball in and ISU doesn't have a timeout to use will you all be happy?

[CycloneErik]

Running out of timeouts means that you need to call more timeouts, plain and simple.

[3TrueFans]

Running out of timeouts means that you need to call more timeouts, plain and simple.

Chris Webber agrees with you 100%

[Bobby45]

When the game is tied, you have the ball, there is a minute left, and you have THREE timeouts, you should probably use one. Fred did this in the OSU and KU games as well. He just lets them play, and they always have empty possessions.

AMEN TWICE

[intrepid27]

I gotta quit coming on here after a loss. This place is ridiculous after a loss.

Fred used and needed every one of the three timeouts he had left in the second half and still people are ******** about it. When someone gets trapped on the corner or can't get the ball in and ISU doesn't have a timeout to use will you all be happy?

I agree. Also, will everyone on this board who has totally mastered their job in less than 3 years please post how they accomplished that feat.

Fred's opponents probalby average 10X more coaching experience and 5X more head coaching experience.

Stay reasonable my friends.

[CycloneErik]

Chris Webber agrees with you 100%

About that, he actually took time out of his day to let me know.

[Cyberclone]

I'm amazed at the number of people posting on this board, who are smarter and would make a better coach than Fred Hoiberg.

[chuckd4735]

I gotta quit coming on here after a loss. This place is ridiculous after a loss.

Fred used and needed every one of the three timeouts he had left in the second half and still people are ******** about it. When someone gets trapped on the corner or can't get the ball in and ISU doesn't have a timeout to use will you all be happy?

Running out of timeouts means that you need to call more timeouts, plain and simple.

ISU used 2 timeouts in the first half, and used all three (3) of their remaining timeouts in THE LAST 12 SECONDS of the game. That means ISU went 19 minutes and 48 seconds in the second half of a back and forth game without calling a single timeout.

ISU had the ball with 1 minute and 45 second left, up 3 points. Lucious turns the ball over with about 10 seconds left on the shot clock. Kabongo then throws up a 3 point shot very fast and misses, ISU gets the ball back, again up 3, with about 90 seconds left. No timeout called again, Fred lets them play. Safe to say if ISU scores on this play, it would be mighty hard for Texas to win it. If you can be up two possession with about 45 seconds left that is typically the case. So call a timeout, set up a play. Instead, we let the guys play, ISU completly milks the clock down, cant get anything going (again, no timeout is called at all during this possession), and Babb launches up a 3 as the shot clock is winding down, misses. Texas gets the rebound, drives to half court and calls a timeout. Barnes draws up a great play, Kabongo drives the lane and gets an easy layup. Texas immediately calls another timeout to draw up a defense. Clyburn gets fouled, makes both, ISU up by 3. Fred then finally calls a timeout to discuss if they should foul or not, and we all know what happens after that.

Point is, had ISU called a timeout earlier, and set up a decent play, especially in that possession that they couldn't get anything going and Babb threw up a 3 with 45 seconds left, we could of been up 5 points instead of 3, and you don't need to use the timeouts at the end of the game to discuss weather you should foul or not.

[VeloClone]

ISU used 2 timeouts in the first half, and used all three (3) of their remaining timeouts in THE LAST 12 SECONDS of the game. That means ISU went 19 minutes and 48 seconds in the second half of a back and forth game without calling a single timeout.

ISU had the ball with 1 minute and 45 second left, up 3 points. Lucious turns the ball over with about 10 seconds left on the shot clock. Kabongo then throws up a 3 point shot very fast and misses, ISU gets the ball back, again up 3, with about 90 seconds left. No timeout called again, Fred lets them play. Safe to say if ISU scores on this play, it would be mighty hard for Texas to win it. If you can be up two possession with about 45 seconds left that is typically the case. So call a timeout, set up a play. Instead, we let the guys play, ISU completly milks the clock down, cant get anything going (again, no timeout is called at all during this possession), and Babb launches up a 3 as the shot clock is winding down, misses. Texas gets the rebound, drives to half court and calls a timeout. Barnes draws up a great play, Kabongo drives the lane and gets an easy layup. Texas immediately calls another timeout to draw up a defense. Clyburn gets fouled, makes both, ISU up by 3. Fred then finally calls a timeout to discuss if they should foul or not, and we all know what happens after that.

Point is, had ISU called a timeout earlier, and set up a decent play, especially in that possession that they couldn't get anything going and Babb threw up a 3 with 45 seconds left, we could of been up 5 points instead of 3, and you don't need to use the timeouts at the end of the game to discuss weather you should foul or not.

Or they could have been still up by 3 and no longer had the timeout they needed and used at the end of regulation.

Too many people on this board make so many assumptions. Calling a timeout results in an automatic made basket, fouling at the end of a game means that the other team will never get the ball back and a another chance to score, ISU going to the line is an automatic 2 points. Coaching would be a lot easier if those were true, but they aren't.

[CycloneWarning]

I'm amazed at the number of people posting on this board, who are smarter and would make a better coach than Fred Hoiberg.

Did not even stay at a Holiday Inn last night and I would have guarded the inbounding 3 point shooter. But guess I guess it worked out better Fred's way.

[chuckd4735]

Or they could have been still up by 3 and no longer had the timeout they needed and used at the end of regulation.

Too many people on this board make so many assumptions. Calling a timeout results in an automatic made basket, fouling at the end of a game means that the other team will never get the ball back and a another chance to score, ISU going to the line is an automatic 2 points. Coaching would be a lot easier if those were true, but they aren't.

Fred has proven that one of his strongest areas of coaching is drawing up plays, and ISU is typically awesome in his tenure at scoring out of timeouts. I feel that he should take advantage of that more then he does.

[CycloneErik]

If we won, his timeout usage was just fine.
Since we lost, it stinks.
It's a simple story to tell.

[chuckd4735]

If we won, his timeout usage was just fine.
Since we lost, it stinks.
It's a simple story to tell.

Disagree. I was complaining about Fred usage of timeouts at the ends of the WVU and KSU games in Ames.

The KSU game Fred called only 2 timeouts the entire game, and one came right after Niang put up a 3 to put ISU ahead.

Fred Also let ISU play through WVU's barrage of 3 pointers in that game in Ames. He finally called a timeout when WVU was within 3. That one really drove me crazy.

[BloodyBuddy]

I think this is fair to debate. People get all butt hurt whenever someone criticizes Fred.