From Pat Forde's Column Today - Forde Minutes

**CTTB78** · 02-26-2013, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by cyfanatic

Kansas also benefited from two fluke circumstances to beat Iowa State – a banked-in 3-pointer to force overtime in Lawrence, and some of the most atrocious end-game officiating in recent history in Ames on Monday night. Bert Smith and Tom O'Neill should be suspended by the Big 12 for outright incompetence after robbing the Cyclones.

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We have a few people on this board who think we are over-reacting when we say we got robbed. Nice to see a third party acknowlege the obvious.

**HFCS** · 02-26-2013, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by CTTB78

We have a few people on this board who think we are over-reacting when we say we got robbed. Nice to see a third party acknowlege the obvious.

We have a few misguided contrarians, the boldest among them actually haven't commented on this issue. The masses are often wrong, but if your instinct is to automatically go against the masses on every issue you'll be wrong on some of the most basic things in life which is even more stupid than just following the crowd every time.

**jbhtexas** · 02-26-2013, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by HFCS

We have a few misguided contrarians

Who are these myterious characters? I've seen you mention them a couple of times now...

**InAWord** · 02-26-2013, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

That sums it up.
Yes, one more defensive stop, one more FT, one more three, whatever. Those win the game.
One less screwjob by the officials wins the game, too.

Last night was just robbery made legal.

Couldn't being in position for a charge be labeled as an 'one more defensive stop?'

**TXCyclones** · 02-26-2013, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by cmjh10

Every sports person I have seen, says that was a charge. When everybody says it was a charge, it was obviously a charge. Those refs completely messed their pants at the end.

But conversely, let's say that you don't call that because "you're going to let them play". Then you don't turn around and hand KU the game by calling Georges Niang for being under the pile. Absolutely atrocious officiating. (not to mention Withey getting away without the 5th foul)

**cmjh10** · 02-26-2013, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by TXCyclones

But conversely, let's say that you don't call that because "you're going to let them play". Then you don't turn around and hand KU the game by calling Georges Niang for being under the pile. Absolutely atrocious officiating. (not to mention Withey getting away without the 5th foul)

Thats what is ******* a lot of people off. Niang got trucked, no foul, grabs at a loose ball, gets called. Awful.

**jdoggivjc** · 02-26-2013, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by DRCHIRO

Not exactly true, I guess Travis and Tim this morning said that the officials did not cause Iowa State to lose. I'm not making this up.

They're not wrong - the refs didn't "lose" the game for us. KU still had to hit both FTs and make that disgusting bank 3 to tie the game. All the refs did was give KU undeserved opportunities at the end of the game. Don't get me wrong, I still think the refs screwed ISU. But they didn't lose the game for us.

**ChampFantana** · 02-26-2013, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by CTTB78

We have a few people on this board who think we are over-reacting when we say we got robbed. Nice to see an MU grad acknowledge the obvious.

FYP

**cowgirl836** · 02-26-2013, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

They're not wrong - the refs didn't "lose" the game for us. KU still had to hit both FTs and make that disgusting bank 3 to tie the game. All the refs did was give KU undeserved opportunities at the end of the game. Don't get me wrong, I still think the refs screwed ISU. But they didn't lose the game for us.

But they did put KU in the high chair, cut up their food into teeny little baby pieces, put it on a fork and say "here comes the choo-choo."

**jdoggivjc** · 02-26-2013, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by cowgirl836

But they did put KU in the high chair, cut up their food into teeny little baby pieces, put it on a fork and say "here comes the choo-choo."

Lol, that is very true

**kingcy** · 02-26-2013, 11:51 AM

I dont have a problem with the no call. The problem I have is with the foul on the floor after the no call that put KU on the FTline. Well that and the refs not calliing the foul on Wiffer.

**GMackey32** · 02-26-2013, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by kingcy

I dont have a problem with the no call. The problem I have is with the foul on the floor after the no call that put KU on the FTline. Well that and the refs not calliing the foul on Wiffer.

I think that's where most people are at. If you aren't going to call the blatant charge/block, why call a foul on Niang when EJ is laying on top of him?

**cyclonepower** · 02-26-2013, 12:14 PM

I know a lot of people dont like Gary Rima but he's got our back!

https://twitter.com/oprsportsguy

**carvers4math** · 02-26-2013, 12:18 PM

Pretty much everyone but KXNO twits and KU fans have our backs. I'm sure HN doesn't but my nutty Hok fan friends even say we were robbed.

**CycloneErik** · 02-26-2013, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by InAWord

Couldn't being in position for a charge be labeled as an 'one more defensive stop?'

Yes. I won't argue that.

I'm thinking one more on top of that. I'm pretty much in an "only if that, and that, and that" mode by throwing it out there. I'll admit that, too.