Lets not fire McDermott just yet (long)

**cybsball20** · 01-14-2008, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Ok, fine, this guy didn't have a losing season at ISU. However, this team got progressively worse in the three years he was at the helm. It's as if he took the Oldsmobile Achieva that LE left him (because it certainly wasn't a Cadillac program that he had) and was heading straight for the telephone pole before JP slammed on the driver instructor's brake and stripped him of the keys.

Wait, didnt they get better from year one to year two? How is that progressively worse?

**CycloneTony** · 01-14-2008, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Ok, fine, this guy didn't have a losing season at ISU. However, this team got progressively worse in the three years he was at the helm. It's as if he took the Oldsmobile Achieva that LE left him (because it certainly wasn't a Cadillac program that he had) and was heading straight for the telephone pole before JP slammed on the driver instructor's brake and stripped him of the keys.

Im wondering why the heck Maury Kent didnt get his fair shot he only coached one year. How unfair. Maybe he contracted Polio Idk lol

**Cyfan13** · 01-14-2008, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Ok, fine, this guy didn't have a losing season at ISU. However, this team got progressively worse in the three years he was at the helm. It's as if he took the Oldsmobile Achieva that LE left him (because it certainly wasn't a Cadillac program that he had) and was heading straight for the telephone pole before JP slammed on the driver instructor's brake and stripped him of the keys.

Couldn't that be because he lost Vroman and Homan in those years? I'd say that could make a HUGE difference.

**CycloneTony** · 01-14-2008, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

That's exactly how I feel.

I don't care what reasons people want to try to come up with for why Wayne got fired, because the real answer is simply that Pollard didn't like him. It's that simple.

A
y do u think pollard didnt like him

**Cyfan13** · 01-14-2008, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneTony

A
y do u think pollard didnt like him

It's a fact Pollard didn't like him. Everyone in the athletic program knew that. He never did.

**ISUFan22** · 01-14-2008, 03:56 PM

If Morgan gets a "pass" for Vroman and Homan running out of eligibility and not slammed for bringing guy like Taggart, Gray, Agnew, etc - that didn't live up to expectations...

What kind of pass should Greg be getting for what he inherited?

Actually...you know...lets fire the guy and put out an apology note to Morgan - see if we can get him to come back. If not, lets call around and beg people to coach our team of 3 remaining players after the others either graduate this year or leave because they're tired of the mess.

If that doesn't work, even Steve Alford and the head coach of Sister Mary of the Poor Tech State turns us down, Pollard can just hire a couple ringers from CF to lead the team to the Final 4 in '08/'09.

**Cyfan13** · 01-14-2008, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

If Morgan gets a "pass" for Vroman and Homan running out of eligibility and not slammed for bringing guy like Taggart, Gray, Agnew, etc - that didn't live up to expectations...

What kind of pass should Greg be getting for what he inherited?

Actually...you know...lets fire the guy and put out an apology note to Morgan - see if we can get him to come back. If not, lets call around and beg people to coach our team of 3 remaining players after the others either graduate this year or leave because they're tired of the mess.

If that doesn't work, even Steve Alford and the head coach of Sister Mary of the Poor Tech State turns us down, Pollard can just hire a couple ringers from CF to lead the team to the Final 4 in '08/'09.

First of all, i'm just stating the reasons why his team could have gotten worse the same way you all give reasons why Mac deserves a "pass". It's the same thing either way. That's what you people need to understand. Some posters are so hypocritical...Morgan was just bad. He was horrible. But Mac, he's amazing and if he has a bad season it's because of this reason and this reason and this reason.

Now i'm not saying Mac's reasons aren't legitimate reasons, but so were Morgan's. That's all i'm saying.

**ISUFan22** · 01-14-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

Some posters are so hypocritical.

I fully agree with you.

This thread (and a couple others) are nothing more than post-loss whining and rehashing of stuff that is long over and done with.

Nothing more...

**CycloneTony** · 01-14-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

It's a fact Pollard didn't like him. Everyone in the athletic program knew that. He never did.

HUH I kind of got that impression when he did his farwell speech. He really didn't look to happy

I was told that when JP got there Wayne's job was done he wanted GMAC cause GMAC was Iowa Born IDK probably just a silly rumor

**C.John** · 01-14-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Pollard can just hire a couple ringers from CF to lead the team to the Final 4 in '08/'09.

Can I submit my 272-2 XBox coaching record? I can hear the pep band already "Here's..C.Johnny..."

**CloneAggie** · 01-14-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

If Morgan gets a "pass" for Vroman and Homan running out of eligibility and not slammed for bringing guy like Taggart, Gray, Agnew, etc - that didn't live up to expectations...

What kind of pass should Greg be getting for what he inherited?

Actually...you know...lets fire the guy and put out an apology note to Morgan - see if we can get him to come back. If not, lets call around and beg people to coach our team of 3 remaining players after the others either graduate this year or leave because they're tired of the mess.

If that doesn't work, even Steve Alford and the head coach of Sister Mary of the Poor Tech State turns us down, Pollard can just hire a couple ringers from CF to lead the team to the Final 4 in '08/'09.

Well, we could give Greg the same pass Wayne got ... if he doesn't produce next year, show him the door. I'm not advocating this. What little I've seen of him, I like him. But if you want to compare the two, that would be the way to go.

**ISUFan22** · 01-14-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneTony

I was told that when JP got there Wayne's job was done he wanted GMAC cause GMAC was Iowa Born IDK probably just a silly rumor

It is a silly one...especially the G-Mac part. Seeing how Jeter was high on the Pollard list during the search and the G-Mac thing developed at the 11th hour (and that G-Mac was a hair away from being a K-State Wildcat).

**CycloneTony** · 01-14-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by C.John

Can I submit my 272-2 XBox coaching record? I can hear the pep band already "Here's..C.Johnny..."

HaHa Ive already won 4 Championships with the clones on 2k8 why cant GMAC do that haha

**CycloneTony** · 01-14-2008, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

It is a silly one...especially the G-Mac part. Seeing how Jeter was high on the Pollard list during the search and the G-Mac thing developed at the 11th hour (and that G-Mac was a hair away from being a K-State Wildcat).

I told you it was silly and you should see the fellow who told me it.

K-state got the raw deal

**ISUFan22** · 01-14-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by C.John

Can I submit my 272-2 XBox coaching record? I can hear the pep band already "Here's..C.Johnny..."

But can you recruit? What about retaining players? If your power goes out, what kind of abilities to you have in keeping them instead of them transferring to the Depths of the Unsaved?

I question your abilities to compete outside your living room. What about moving up to the next level...can you win there? Or how about on the roof?