3-pt line

ISUFan22 · 03-14-2008, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Juggercy

might as well make the 3pt line the same as it is in the nba

Give it a few more years.

And while we're at it, how 'bout a 4-pointer if shot behind the half-court line?

cybsball20 · 03-14-2008, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by SpokaneCY

Not true - we were 8th in the conference in 3s made at 6 (Baylor was first with 9 per game) and our 3pt % was last in the conference at 31% (KU was first at 39%). Those numbers don't seem to support your "live and die by the 3" statement. We took less than everyone and made a hell of a lot less than everyone.

KU and Baylor are probably the worst teams to compare us to because they probably get around 15 more possessions than us a game due to the tempo they play. Of course they would shoot more.

SpokaneCY · 03-14-2008, 03:49 PM

AND we took 607 3s which was 6th in the conference in attempts while Baylor led the league with 699 attempts. Again - not the "live and die by the 3" strategy you claim.

Whin4Cy · 03-14-2008, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

you would think they'd just match it up with the international line ... what's 3 inches?

According to the NCAA, they didn't want to be the same as International. They wanted their own line.

bostinelosd · 03-14-2008, 03:52 PM

Honestly, at this point, moving the line shouldnt impact them too much actually shooting the ball. Heck most of them probably practice shooting far out shots alot anyway. It would be more to the fact of remember where your foot is in regards to the line. Players keep getting stronger and stronger, eventually the line will have to be moved to half court. =)

SpokaneCY · 03-14-2008, 03:53 PM

AND and, 26% of all our shot attempts were 3s. I would go through the rest of the stats in the B12 site, but really I don't have the energy to. I'd be willing to be that we were NOT in the top tier as far as percentage of shots that were 3s.

cloneu · 03-14-2008, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by bostinelosd

Ask your wife, she should know.

That's just not nice. But sometimes the truth hurts.

BryceC · 03-14-2008, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by SpokaneCY

AND we took 607 3s which was 6th in the conference in attempts while Baylor led the league with 699 attempts. Again - not the "live and die by the 3" strategy you claim.

Ken Pomeroy tracks a state for 3PA/FGA, to show how many three pointers as opposed to other shots a team shoots.

ISU is 3rd in the Big 12 in 3PA/FGA, behind OSU and BU. I think that's pretty dang close to living and dying by the 3, especially considering we had the worst 3 point shooting percentage in the conference.

AND and, 26% of all our shot attempts were 3s. I would go through the rest of the stats in the B12 site, but really I don't have the energy to. I'd be willing to be that we were NOT in the top tier as far as percentage of shots that were 3s.

We are.

cloneu · 03-14-2008, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by bostinelosd

Honestly, at this point, moving the line shouldnt impact them too much actually shooting the ball. Heck most of them probably practice shooting far out shots alot anyway. It would be more to the fact of remember where your foot is in regards to the line. Players keep getting stronger and stronger, eventually the line will have to be moved to half court. =)

Maybe they should already move it back for people who do this.

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Aaron Jacobs · 03-14-2008, 04:07 PM

I don't think we are so much live and die by the three as we only have two shots on the court. Feed it into the low post to Brackins or Jiri, or swing it around the perimeter until we have an open look.

SpokaneCY · 03-14-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by BryceC

Ken Pomeroy tracks a state for 3PA/FGA, to show how many three pointers as opposed to other shots a team shoots.

ISU is 3rd in the Big 12 in 3PA/FGA, behind OSU and BU. I think that's pretty dang close to living and dying by the 3, especially considering we had the worst 3 point shooting percentage in the conference.

We are.

So I ran the stats and we're 3rd in the B12 at 26% followed by CU (26%) UT (25%) OU (25%) KSU (24%) NU (24%) and MU (24%). So we're within 1 or 2 percentage points of a majority of the teams. Again - sure doesn't look like we live and die by the 3.

ce1 · 03-14-2008, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

I doubt it will discourage us from shooting that much since McD's offense is to live and die by the three. Why else do you think we chucked so many up this year?

Because we were behind a lot?

BryceC · 03-14-2008, 04:12 PM

True. Since we do shoot the worst percentage in the Big 12 we do seem to be dying by it a lot more than living by it.

clones_jer · 03-14-2008, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by ce1

Because we were behind a lot?

there's probably a lot of truth to that ...

we'd have to subtract the 20-40 "desperation-time" 3 pointers taken in the conferance losses

CloneAggie · 03-14-2008, 04:17 PM

Here are the stats...

Team................ FGA.... 3FGA... 3FGA/FGA
Oklahoma State...... 1672... 652.... 0.389952153
Baylor.............. 1910... 699.... 0.365968586
Iowa State.......... 1733... 607.... 0.350259665
Colorado............ 1535... 529.... 0.344625407
Texas............... 1874... 633.... 0.337780149
Oklahoma............ 1672... 554.... 0.331339713
Kansas State........ 1896... 615.... 0.324367089
Missouri............ 2011... 641.... 0.318746892
Nebraska............ 1572... 489.... 0.311068702
Texas A&M........... 1748... 522.... 0.298627002
Kansas.............. 1841... 535.... 0.290602933
Texas Tech.......... 1623... 428.... 0.263709181