Van Coleman's on Jon's show....

**goldmember** · 03-28-2008, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by arganbright2

I got to watch Mann play earlier this season. You could tell he wasn't having his best game but this kid is a stud. Alot more athletic than one would imagine. I honestly can't believe that ISU and Iowa were his only scholarship offers.

Van said a bunch of others schools cam calling on Mann after he committed to ISU. I remember Wisconsin and Michigan as two that were mentioned.

**Bobber** · 03-28-2008, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by cycloneryan

It is hard to get too excited about a freshman anymore. It seems like unless they are like Odem or Beasley it takes a good year to make a huge impact.

Oh it's always been that way. The exception to the rule are the Beasely and Durant types. Most of these kids are only 18 years old! Some of them don't really get mature until 20 or later.

**Landshark** · 03-28-2008, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by cycloneryan

It is hard to get too excited about a freshman anymore. It seems like unless they are like Odem or Beasley it takes a good year to make a huge impact.

If Mann comes in like Homan did (ready to fight somebody), I'm absolutely pumped!!! Homan wasn't spectacular his frosh year, but he didn't back down to nobody, and you could tell that he was going to be special for us in the upcoming years.

**Wesley** · 03-28-2008, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by kingcy

Arnt McD and Van friends in some way? I could be wrong, but I thought I heard one time where they talk some. What Van is saying could be stuff McD has told him. Like I said I could be wrong. Van had high hopes for CJ also and look what happened there. He was 100% right on what type of player CJ is, where he missed on CJ was him fitting in to the system.

Maybe he was a tweener and a transition player. He did lose a lot of weight the second year to be faster. It is still strange. Looks like recruiting could be a struggle for McD with his offense when you think about recruiting results the previous 8 years. Easier to recruit people to up tempo Western Kentucky probably.

**clone52** · 03-28-2008, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by tim_redd

I think Buckley's season next year will be a lot like Diante's season this year. Some ups, some downs and a strong finish.

In all honesty, anything we get out of Buckley will be gravy. Garrett and Petersen can handle it, especially if we can get some solid shooting.

**CyclonesRule** · 03-28-2008, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by clone52

In all honesty, anything we get out of Buckley will be gravy. Garrett and Petersen can handle it, especially if we can get some solid shooting.

I agree, in all honesty I think Buckley redshirts unless he does something spectacular. With Diante comming on strong at the end of this year he'll be ready to contribute alot more next season. We will get Lucca back as well. I think Diante and Lucca will be our main guards and you throw in Peterson and Huluska in the mix as well. I think it would be beneficial for him to sit, we didn't have that luxury with Diante we needed him right away.

**Bobber** · 03-28-2008, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by CyclonesRule

I agree, in all honesty I think Buckley redshirts unless he does something spectacular. With Diante comming on strong at the end of this year he'll be ready to contribute alot more next season. We will get Lucca back as well. I think Diante and Lucca will be our main guards and you throw in Peterson and Huluska in the mix as well. I think it would be beneficial for him to sit, we didn't have that luxury with Diante we needed him right away.

From what I've read Buckley is a true point guard who slashes and dishes the ball off well. We don't have anybody who plays like that now. True Diante shows flashes of it, but I think he'll do better as an off guard. With that in mind, I'll be surprised if he redshirts.

**cybsball20** · 03-28-2008, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by CyclonesRule

I agree, in all honesty I think Buckley redshirts unless he does something spectacular. With Diante comming on strong at the end of this year he'll be ready to contribute alot more next season. We will get Lucca back as well. I think Diante and Lucca will be our main guards and you throw in Peterson and Huluska in the mix as well. I think it would be beneficial for him to sit, we didn't have that luxury with Diante we needed him right away.

If Buckley is as good as advertised he would transfer immediately if the coach even mentioned the word 'redshirt'.

**CycloneErik** · 03-28-2008, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

If Buckley is as good as advertised he would transfer immediately if the coach even mentioned the word 'redshirt'.

Don't go giving people ideas

**CrossCyed** · 03-28-2008, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bobber

From what I've read Buckley is a true point guard who slashes and dishes the ball off well. We don't have anybody who plays like that now. True Diante shows flashes of it, but I think he'll do better as an off guard. With that in mind, I'll be surprised if he redshirts.

Diante doesn't shoot well enough yet to be worth much on the court at anything besides the point.

**cyclonedcm** · 03-28-2008, 09:24 PM

Buckley will play at point guard next year... period... end of story.

**Oldgeezer** · 03-29-2008, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonedcm

Buckley will play at point guard next year... period... end of story.

I will be somewhat disappointed if Buckley does not beat out Garrett by Christmas.

**cyismydog** · 03-29-2008, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Oldgeezer

I will be somewhat disappointed if Buckley does not beat out Garrett by Christmas.

From what I understand, DG will play the two next year most of the time.

**BryceC** · 03-29-2008, 10:11 AM

Buckley is going to be a freshman. He's going to have a lot of the problems all freshman have. I'll be somewhat disappointed if he beats out Garrett, because that means Garrett didn't improve much between his freshman and sophomore year.

**cyismydog** · 03-29-2008, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by BryceC

Buckley is going to be a freshman. He's going to have a lot of the problems all freshman have. I'll be somewhat disappointed if he beats out Garrett, because that means Garrett didn't improve much between his freshman and sophomore year.

kg-cyclone said that they want dg playing primarily the 2 next year, and he's a pretty good source.