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**chrishull14** · 03-28-2008, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

That's not what I wanted to happen. I guess it just seems to me that a lot of fans keep making excuses for why it's ok this player left, and that player left. So what would happen if one of our main players left? Would people all of a sudden turn on Mac? That's all I was asking.

What is your honest opinion of Coach Mac and the BB program as a whole?

**Cyfan13** · 03-28-2008, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

aka...stirring the pot.

I'm really not. If I wanted to "stir the pot", I could. But that wasn't my intentions.

**Knownothing** · 03-28-2008, 02:28 PM

If Clark quits I am going to go nuts.

**Cyfan13** · 03-28-2008, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by chrishull14

What is your honest opinion of Coach Mac and the BB program as a whole?

I think Mac is a very good coach, but I think he has problems relating and connecting to his players. I think the recruiting will be an issue for him, but I still think he is the right guy for the job.

**CyRide3** · 03-28-2008, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

I think Mac is a very good coach, but I think he has problems relating and connecting to his players. I think the recruiting will be an issue for him, but I still think he is the right guy for the job.

Hard to think positive thoughts about this one...Not connecting with players, and recruiting will remain an issue, doesn't add up to right guy for the job.

**Cystate22** · 03-28-2008, 02:37 PM

Do our assistants relate well to the players to offset Mac not being able too? I really like Mac so I hope we can get this figured out. Also, I am really going to miss Rahshon at Iowa State. I hope you guys stay in touch with the progam, as we are going to miss seeing you guys.

**Cyfan13** · 03-28-2008, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Cystate22

Do our assistants relate well to the players to offset Mac not being able too? I really like Mac so I hope we can get this figured out. Also, I am really going to miss Rahshon at Iowa State. I hope you guys stay in touch with the progam, as we are going to miss seeing you guys.

Exactly. Mac is a good coach and that's what he does well. He has a great staff to help connect with the players. There are a lot of coaches that aren't "player coaches" but they still get the job done. Mac isn't necessarily a "player's coach" but that doesn't mean he's not a good coach. He surrounded himself with assistant coaches and grad coaches that are "player coaches" so it all balances out.

**HILLCYD** · 03-28-2008, 02:45 PM

**Cystate22** · 03-28-2008, 02:48 PM

That's great to hear! I thought that might be the case.

**ISUChippewa** · 03-28-2008, 02:49 PM

That's interesting that Mac has issues relating to and connecting with his players. Also kind of alarming.

I guess I find it surprising because I don't think he had any issues at all with that at UNI. I remember reading an article in his first season before we played UNI when Eric Coleman and Grant Stout were quoted by the Register as saying that they would still get phone calls and text messages from Mac after they had a good game. He was also very close by to Stout last year when Stout had some sort of heart surgery. To me, that doesn't like someone that has trouble relating to college athletes.

**Bader** · 03-28-2008, 02:49 PM

give me a break, she just asked a hypothetical question about a much discussed topic on here, and just because some of you don't like talking about it she's "stirring the pot"

**HILLCYD** · 03-28-2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Bader

give me a break, she just asked a hypothetical question about a much discussed topic on here, and just because some of you don't like talking about it she's "stirring the pot"

I am assuming that is directed at me. I will just say that I don't think a graduating senior's girlfriend should be your be all end all when it comes to the basketball team's attitude, future success etc.

**CrossCyed** · 03-28-2008, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by ISUChippewa

That's interesting that Mac has issues relating to and connecting with his players. Also kind of alarming.

I guess I find it surprising because I don't think he had any issues at all with that at UNI. I remember reading an article in his first season before we played UNI when Eric Coleman and Grant Stout were quoted by the Register as saying that they would still get phone calls and text messages from Mac after they had a good game. He was also very close by to Stout last year when Stout had some sort of heart surgery. To me, that doesn't like someone that has trouble relating to college athletes.

Maybe it's different at ISU. Maybe it's difficulty relating with players he didn't originally bring in. Who knows, but I've heard some of the same stuff.

**CyValley** · 03-28-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

I think Mac is a very good coach, but I think he has problems relating and connecting to his players. I think the recruiting will be an issue for him, but I still think he is the right guy for the job.

I have been an unapologetic, unqualified supporter of Mac's all along. I've defended him, heatedly at times. My perspective is that of a typical fan's in that I'm viewing the program from a distance and don't personally know any of the chief personalities involved (coaches or players).

If a key player were to leave now, after all that's transpired the past 24 months and when most of us desire and expect a certain stability in the program to be achieved finally, I'd be greatly shaken. I would lose a certain sense of confidence about Mac and his program.

Your comment about Mac's inability to connect with players has shaken me somewhat, too. Your remark seems contradictory in that you say relating and recruiting are problems but nevertheless that Mac's the right man for the job. Would you elaborate? What qualities make Mac the right man?

(I see that you've responded to some others after I posted this but before I read those comments. But, boy, life is just never smooth. . . .)

**CrossCyed** · 03-28-2008, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by CyValley

I have been an unapologetic, unqualified supporter of Mac's all along. I've defended him, heatedly at times. My perspective is that of a typical fan's in that I'm viewing the program from a distance and don't personally know any of the chief personalities involved (coaches or players).

If a key player were to leave now, after all that's transpired the past 24 months and when most of us desire and expect a certain stability in the program to be achieved finally, I'd be greatly shaken. I would lose a certain sense of confidence about Mac and his program.

Your comment about Mac's inability to connect with players has shaken me somewhat, too. Your remark seems contradictory in that you say relating and recruiting are problems but nevertheless that Mac's the right man for the job. Would you elaborate? What qualities make Mac the right man?

I think it's a combination of being from Cascade and being tall.