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04-18-2008, 12:52 PM
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#46 (permalink)
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Credits: 137,146 | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken
I believe he will be an outstanding player for us. Plus, isn;t his brother the guy from Dawson's Creek? That's icing on the cake.
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04-18-2008, 12:54 PM
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#47 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 26
Credits: 183,514 | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken
Why you ask?
1. UConn was interested. We know what kind of talent they pursue.
2. Another big body in the rotation will allow Hamilton to redshirt and Pomlee/Mann will have time to develop slowly.
3. Allows Wesley Johnson to play the 3-spot.
4. Keeps us from having to play Alex Thompson 25-30 minutes/gm
5. Another threat to make 3's - important in a hi/lo post offense
6. Averaged 14 pts/gm on a team that had several scorers. Had he been the #1 scoring option, might have been a 20 ppg guy.
7. Ten rebounds a game shows he isn't soft and just hanging out at the 3-pt line.
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04-18-2008, 12:56 PM
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#48 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Credits: 305,896 | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken Honestly, I am not impressed with him at all. He will be another Thompson as most, and I seriously doubt he will beat Thompson for minutes. I believe McDermott spent a little more time than checking Rivals to see where they ranked Vanderbeken. McDermott brought him in and observed his skills against our current players. Has seen tape on his games this past year and even witnessed him in play in person.
Honestly, I will trust McDermott's opinion on this one rather than yours. Unless of course your real name is Coach K or your opinion is based on more than what the internet says about his skills.
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04-18-2008, 01:01 PM
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#49 (permalink)
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Iowa
Posts: 3,400
Credits: 57,238 Year: ~'10 NFL: Colts MLB: White Sox | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken
McDermott and the Pope going head to head in a battle of infallibility. Schweet.
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04-18-2008, 01:20 PM
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#50 (permalink)
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha
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Credits: 296,776 Year: 1997 Degree: Psychology NFL: Broncos | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken Originally Posted by chengyushen When was the last time in cyclone history that a top 50 juco player makes a impact? I don;t remember that we even recuited a top 50 juco in LE time. Althoug LE was considered a bad recuiter. I'm going to assume that this means a player outside of the top 50. Mike Nurse was a guy that wasn't on any top 50 lists. In fact hardly anyone outside of Gar Forman and Tim Floyd knew who he was.
Additionally Richard Evans was a top 10/15 Juco recruit. He became a marginal role player at best. Tommy King was a top 10 Juco. Total bust. Tim Barnes was another top 10 Juco. He was decent for one year, but no Mike Nurse.
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04-18-2008, 01:47 PM
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#51 (permalink)
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Credits: 312,535 | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken Originally Posted by cybsball20 Although I am not a fan of the Recruiting business, some of those guys have been studying Big XII recruiting alot longer than Mac has been recruiting in the Big XII. Are you somehow saying that some folks NOT close to the program may know more about what our program needs than the head coach who has played basketball AND coached basketball against some of the nations best?
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04-18-2008, 02:11 PM
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#52 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Altoona, Ia.
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Credits: 277,296 NFL: Vikings MLB: Cardinals | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken Originally Posted by SpRiNgLiMe At 53rd he is ranked ahead of a familiar face Dodie Dunson at 66th. Though this rankings are not a very good representation of what a player can do with a higher (or lower) degree of talent surrounding them. Rivals.com Prospect Rankings Since Tech took a post player rated right before Jamie, and OU took one a couple of slots later, I'm not terribly fussed about the rankings, really.
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04-18-2008, 02:13 PM
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#53 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Altoona, Ia.
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Credits: 277,296 NFL: Vikings MLB: Cardinals | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken Originally Posted by Cutlass Additionally Richard Evans was a top 10/15 Juco recruit. He became a marginal role player at best. Tommy King was a top 10 Juco. Total bust. Tim Barnes was another top 10 Juco. He was decent for one year, but no Mike Nurse. Heh. And when LE signed Jamaal Tinsley, no one had heard of him at all. All that he had was some gaudy assist statistics, and the fact that he was a New Yorker.
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04-18-2008, 02:14 PM
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#54 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 71
Credits: 198,369 | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken
I'm pretty sure Kantrail Horton was not on any top 50 lists and he definately wasn't a bust. Dedrick Willoughby wasn't even playing BB at Indian Hills when Floyd brought him in and he turned out ok. I would much rather guys like Nurse and Horton than highly ranked guys like Dewayne Johns and the Jerome Harper.
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04-18-2008, 05:09 PM
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#55 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ames
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Credits: 165,168 NFL: Packers NBA: Lakers MLB: Cardinals | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken
If Jamie is good enough for our coaches, he is good enough for me. From what I heard earlier he had a good workout. I'm also pretty sure the coaching staff knows more about players than I do. Plus he wants to be a cyclone. I just hope he doesn't have to regret that statement he made about Iowa State's ridiculous fan support.
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04-18-2008, 06:38 PM
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#56 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ames, IA
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Credits: 735,303 Year: 1995 Degree: B.A.; M.Div. MLB: Cubs | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken Originally Posted by Cydkar I'm going to go out on a limb and trust the staff over an anonymous internet poster who hasn't seen him play.
Oh, now, that's just crazy!
As for the thread title question, the site is called Cyclone Fanatic. We tend to be an excitable sort of people.
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04-18-2008, 11:22 PM
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#57 (permalink)
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sk-Ankeny
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Credits: 237,295 | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken
If he's good enough for Alford... nuff said.
If he's anything more than Jirir-light(tall man that likes to shoot outside) then he can get a medle on his chest. It would be great to have a 6'10", 250 lb. left handed shot blocker and a 6'8" perimeter player than the opposite. Oh wait... which one do we have???
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04-19-2008, 01:11 PM
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#58 (permalink)
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 197
Credits: 261,601 | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken
I have read that he is very athletic and moves very well with nice touch around the basket. Didn't he have three or four other D 1 players in the starting five at Tyler? I think he will be a solid player.
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04-19-2008, 01:28 PM
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#59 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Altoona, Ia.
Posts: 1,432
Credits: 277,296 NFL: Vikings MLB: Cardinals | Re: Why are we so excited about Vanderbeken
What I really liked that not m,any people talked about was that he shot 53% from the field (while being a three point shooter). That means that he's comfortable inside as well, not just an outside shooter on offense. Now that's something to get excited about. | | |
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