Wesley to Kentucky

Jeremy · 05-19-2008, 06:51 PM

Also - I understand not being happy but he has never made his concerns known to the staff, I know that for a fact. If he was unhappy, be a man and leave the right way instead of blowing off the people that gave you everything they could.

jahfg · 05-19-2008, 06:53 PM

If he has been thinking about transferring for that long, it makes you wonder how much effort he was giving the rest of the season. Maybe that is why he decided to chuck up threes every possession.

CyGuy33 · 05-19-2008, 06:55 PM

He left Iowa State for Kentucky, if that isn't an obvious reason for his leaving I don't know what is. Why did Billy G leave A&M for Kentucky?

Have you seen Ashley Judd in the stands? I would leave for Kentucky!

It's the Winningest College Basketball Program in the COUNTRY

From WIKI:
The University of Kentucky men's basketball team is considered to be among the most elite NCAA basketball programs, having earned a total of seven NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship. Its seven titles were won by four different coaches - Adolph Rupp in 1948, 1949, 1951 and 1958; Joe B. Hall in 1978; Rick Pitino in 1996; and Tubby Smith in 1998. Kentucky is second only to UCLA, which has 11 National Championships. UK is also the winningest men's college basketball program in the nation. Through the completion of the 2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament on April 7, 2008, Kentucky now has a total of 1966 all-time wins (North Carolina is second with 1950 wins, and Kansas is third with 1943 wins). Kentucky also leads all NCAA schools in all-time winning percentage. (UK's all-time record: 1966-621; UK's all-time winning percentage: .760)

Wesley · 05-19-2008, 06:55 PM

Maybe he wants to showcase more in an uptempo game. It was not the shoe deals. It was not about winning. It was not TV exposure. It was not the staff. It was the style of basketball. I would guess some other teammates were involved in his final decision.

jahfg · 05-19-2008, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by CyGuy33

He left Iowa State for Kentucky, if that isn't an obvious reason for his leaving I don't know what is. Why did Billy G leave A&M for Kentucky?

Have you seen Ashley Judd in the stands? I would leave for Kentucky!

It's the Winningest College Basketball Program in the COUNTRY

From WIKI:
The University of Kentucky men's basketball team is considered to be among the most elite NCAA basketball programs, having earned a total of seven NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship. Its seven titles were won by four different coaches - Adolph Rupp in 1948, 1949, 1951 and 1958; Joe B. Hall in 1978; Rick Pitino in 1996; and Tubby Smith in 1998. Kentucky is second only to UCLA, which has 11 National Championships. UK is also the winningest men's college basketball program in the nation. Through the completion of the 2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament on April 7, 2008, Kentucky now has a total of 1966 all-time wins (North Carolina is second with 1950 wins, and Kansas is third with 1943 wins). Kentucky also leads all NCAA schools in all-time winning percentage. (UK's all-time record: 1966-621; UK's all-time winning percentage: .760)

Maybe he would stay with ISU because he has a spine and realizes the opportunity that ISU and the coaching staff gave him. It is this thing called loyalty. Unfortunately, loyalty has gone all but out the window in college sports. A good portion of college athletes are spoiled punks only looking out for themselves and how they can make it to the big-time.

Cardinal&Gold11 · 05-19-2008, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by CyGuy33

He left Iowa State for Kentucky, if that isn't an obvious reason for his leaving I don't know what is. Why did Billy G leave A&M for Kentucky?

Have you seen Ashley Judd in the stands? I would leave for Kentucky!

It's the Winningest College Basketball Program in the COUNTRY

From WIKI:
The University of Kentucky men's basketball team is considered to be among the most elite NCAA basketball programs, having earned a total of seven NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship. Its seven titles were won by four different coaches - Adolph Rupp in 1948, 1949, 1951 and 1958; Joe B. Hall in 1978; Rick Pitino in 1996; and Tubby Smith in 1998. Kentucky is second only to UCLA, which has 11 National Championships. UK is also the winningest men's college basketball program in the nation. Through the completion of the 2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament on April 7, 2008, Kentucky now has a total of 1966 all-time wins (North Carolina is second with 1950 wins, and Kansas is third with 1943 wins). Kentucky also leads all NCAA schools in all-time winning percentage. (UK's all-time record: 1966-621; UK's all-time winning percentage: .760)

Then maybe he should have just walked on to Kentucky in the first place, instead of us giving him the only major D-1 offer.

Jeremy · 05-19-2008, 06:58 PM

I don't mind a player leaving if it's for reasons to better their potential, fit their style, etc, etc. I can completely respect that. What I don't accept is when a player can't be a man and have the balls to tell the damn coaching staff they're leaving, let alone their teammates. That irks me in ways that I can't attempt to get through my own filters on this board.

CrossCyed · 05-19-2008, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

Well that contradicts several players and people I've talked to as recently as 15 minutes ago. I wish him the best but what he did and who he did it to is below everything I thought he stood for. I understand if you want to defend him, I'm not trying to say he's a bad person, I'm actually shocked because I thought he was a much better person than what I've learned has happened over the past week.

To do things the way he did isn't excusable, regardless of how good of friends you were/are with him. I wouldn't defend my wife if she did something like this and I sure as heck wont defend a player either.

To be fair, your wife doesn't think you're up-tempo enough....

Wesley · 05-19-2008, 07:00 PM

Well, you can tell the leaders by watching them play on the floor. Maybe he was not comfortable to be the big focus next year, to follow in the footsteps of Rashon and Jiri.

Cardinal&Gold11 · 05-19-2008, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by CrossCyed

To be fair, your wife doesn't think you're up-tempo enough....

that was a much needed laugh. This thread is getting very hostile.

Cyfan13 · 05-19-2008, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

I don't mind a player leaving if it's for reasons to better their potential, fit their style, etc, etc. I can completely respect that. What I don't accept is when a player can't be a man and have the balls to tell the damn coaching staff they're leaving, let alone their teammates. That irks me in ways that I can't attempt to get through my own filters on this board.

Believe me, his teammates knew...And you are right about him not telling the coaching staff. I'm not condoning the WAY he did it, I'm just saying that he had legitimate reasons to leave. He should have handled it better.

Jeremy · 05-19-2008, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by CrossCyed

To be fair, your wife doesn't think you're up-tempo enough....

I had a sore wrist

CrossCyed · 05-19-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

I don't mind a player leaving if it's for reasons to better their potential, fit their style, etc, etc. I can completely respect that. What I don't accept is when a player can't be a man and have the balls to tell the damn coaching staff they're leaving, let alone their teammates. That irks me in ways that I can't attempt to get through my own filters on this board.

If McDermott is telling the truth, and it comes as a complete surprise to the coaching staff, it's sad that schmucks like you and I had been hearing stuff for weeks.

CyGuy33 · 05-19-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Cardinal&Gold11

Then maybe he should have just walked on to Kentucky in the first place, instead of us giving him the only major D-1 offer.

To a lot of players this is a job and their current position is just a way to get to a better higher paying position.

In corporate America it happens all the time and no one thinks twice, we don't cut down our former co-workers for leaving for more money, a better office, better benefits, more vaction. But because we are so tied to our school, the team we live for or at least care about we cut down a 20 year old kid who is doing what he thinks is best for his future.

When he signed with Iowa State he probably didn't think walking on at Kentucky was best for his future. Is it the way you or I would have done it, maybe not. But it's happened. We're upset but we have to look at both sides of it.

Jeremy · 05-19-2008, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by CrossCyed

If McDermott is telling the truth, and it comes as a complete surprise to the coaching staff, it's sad that schmucks like you and I had been hearing stuff for weeks.

I agree but you have to keep in mind that we're listening to rumors and all they can do is ask the players if they're happy and/or if the rumors are true or not. If a player says nothing is wrong, that's about all the staff can do. We can keep asking sources and find other sources whereas they have the coaching to take care of.