2007-2008 Record Change

kg-cyclone · 05-20-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by bauerzac

I think the point KG Cyclone is trying to make is that something happened at the Vegas Tournament that caused Wes to become "discontent" with the program and/or coaching staff.

I was in Las Vegas for those games and the only thing I can point to is a blowup between WJ and McDermott in a TV timeout in which McDermott laid his hands on Wes jerking him around. In McDermott defense Wes had said something to McDermott coming off the court and McDermott apologized after the TV timeout was over.
It just strikes me as odd that this incident could have been the reason WJ transferred. Especially when you consider that the night before ISU has played its best game of the season in beating Purdue.

More so somebody else was in his ear after the game.

CloneAggie · 05-20-2008, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

More so somebody else was in his ear after the game.

Kentucky was scouting Alabama at the tournament and a coach from Kentucky talked with Wes while there?

Todd · 05-20-2008, 11:28 AM

I can't find anyone on Kentucky's staff w/ ties to Alabama so maybe it was a scouting thing....probably Ashlee Judd!!

CycloneWarrior · 05-20-2008, 11:29 AM

wes Johnson met Ashley judd in vegas cause she was helping to scout Alabama. They started going out and she convince him to transfer

bauerzac · 05-20-2008, 11:29 AM

The only connection between Alabama and Gillespie at Kentucky is James Holland who is currently an assistant coach at Alabama (just finished his second year) and also coached under Gillespie at UTEP. Quite frankly if Wes decides to attend Alabama I would feel really sorry for him. They are consistently one of the most underachieving and non-coached teams in America. As Bill King on Rivals Radio says "All Gotfried consistently does is roll the balls onto the court." No coaching whatsoever. I really hope someone from Alabama didn't get into his ear.

jbhtexas · 05-20-2008, 11:31 AM

Maybe we could call CSI Vegas. Certainly Grissom and Willows could figure it out for us...

Cyfan13 · 05-20-2008, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

I'm just giving everybody what I have thus far...If you would prefer I wait to say something...I can do that. I've been steaming about this since last night, so it's kind of nice having some company with my frustration.

And what's the difference between what he just did and what I did? He's telling you part of the story, and saying guess the rest of it because I can't really disclose it yet. That's exactly what I did. Bunch of hypocrits on this site!

ISUFan22 · 05-20-2008, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

And what's the difference between what he just did and what I did? He's telling you part of the story, and saying guess the rest of it because I can't really disclose it yet. That's exactly what I did. Bunch of hypocrits on this site!

Go back and read what I said.

Nah....I'll quote it for you...

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I believe the man 100% when he says he knows, but is unable to reveal right now. IMO, probably one of the best sources we have here as it relates to the MBB program.

I just wish like some others, he'd keep a lid on it until he's able to go into detail.

tigershoops31 · 05-20-2008, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

And what's the difference between what he just did and what I did? He's telling you part of the story, and saying guess the rest of it because I can't really disclose it yet. That's exactly what I did. Bunch of hypocrits on this site!

The difference is that his scenario could be possibly damaging to another program or an ex-player, while yours is damaging to OUR program and staff IMO

bostinelosd · 05-20-2008, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cyfan13

That's exactly what I did. Bunch of hypocrits on this site!

He got chewed in another thread about it too. Wouldnt take offense.

clonedboy · 05-20-2008, 11:46 AM

he also said Wes's closest friends don't even know the whole story which would include you i believe.

PGreen ISU '92 · 05-20-2008, 11:53 AM

Cyfan13 & KG-Cyclone -- Thank you Both! I appreciate your insight very much. It’s because of the insiders like you that I visit the website. Please keep posting in the future.

Cyclonic · 05-20-2008, 11:54 AM

to KG and Cyfan13 I say... **** or get off the pot. i'm tired of this "bait and then you guys figure it out" crap. it's like your wife assuming you have this magical power to read thier mind because everybody knows men should be able to anticipate your girl's thoughts. So, i'll do what I usually do, leave the room and come back when someone has something real to say.

bostinelosd · 05-20-2008, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by PGreen ISU '92

Cyfan13 & KG-Cyclone -- Thank you Both! I appreciate your insight very much. It’s because of the insiders like you that I visit the website. Please keep posting in the future.

Stay where you are. Im coming over to slap you, in about 5 minutes.

cloneu · 05-20-2008, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by PGreen ISU '92

Cyfan13 & KG-Cyclone -- Thank you Both! I appreciate your insight very much. It’s because of the insiders like you that I visit the website. Please keep posting in the future.

I think there was a thread over in gaming forum that you have not mentioned this at yet if you want to hit that one up too.