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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
 Originally Posted by cycloneworld I think this is the first time in the history of internet message boards that something posted could potentially be not true!   Awesome, I reserve the right to bash ISU without any valid reason.
Not that it matters anyways. It's not like anyone outside of Ames cares about Cyclone hoops (or possibly even knows it exists).
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
An apology is not necessary. While it is true that there were posters on this board that speculated that Kentucky was involved, who is to say that they were wrong? We are supposed to take your word as a new poster on this board that Kentucky was not involved even though you wouldn't believe the word of a long time poster that stated that they were? You don't have the credibility here to have earned an apology especially since we still don't know that the story was false.
Go back to your K-Y board and try to figure what K-Y is going to do to fill the holes created by the transfers of your two high profile players whose transfers had a "much greater impact on K-Y's program by leaving than did WJ's transfer from ISU". You apparently have much bigger problems than we do.
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
ISU and Kentucky should move on, but Cyclone fans, I would hold your apologies until a later date -
Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
Just because we didn't release Wesley to Kentucky, doesn't mean that Kentucky didn't seak that release. I have no doubt that a middle man contacted Wesley's brother letting him know how welcome he'd be at KY.
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
 Originally Posted by mrfreddyx Awesome, I reserve the right to bash ISU without any valid reason.
Not that it matters anyways. It's not like anyone outside of Ames cares about Cyclone hoops (or possibly even knows it exists). Now, that's not very nice.
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
 Originally Posted by mrfreddyx Not that it matters anyways. It's not like anyone outside of Ames cares about Cyclone hoops (or possibly even knows it exists). Says the Kentucky fan on an ISU message board. -
Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
 Originally Posted by Wesley Indications were the whole episode revolved around middlemen like his brother or other closet associates that were making some unofficial feeler contacts with various schools shadowy representatives in the backrooms.
Guess K-Y did not need another recruit that could jump 42 inches or otherwise K-Y would have been on the list like Ohio State and the others fine Big East schools. According to this board OSU is part of the Big East and Memphis/UAB are in the SEC.
Glad I am dealing with the cream of the crop when it comes to intelligence (or at least knowledge about NCAA sports).
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
 Originally Posted by mrfreddyx Awesome, I reserve the right to bash ISU without any valid reason.
Not that it matters anyways. It's not like anyone outside of Ames cares about Cyclone hoops (or possibly even knows it exists). Wasting your time, go have some fun at a local greased pig contest: Looking forward to CFH magic for the next bball season, Georges style. -
Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
"After hearing the hysteria on this board for a little over a week and the bashing of Kentucky, I think an apology is due. Not only were we never in improper contact with Wesley, we were never in contact at all."
How do we know this? I think Kentucky NOT being on the release list speaks volumes.
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
 Originally Posted by mrfreddyx According to this board OSU is part of the Big East and Memphis/UAB are in the SEC.
Glad I am dealing with the cream of the crop when it comes to intelligence (or at least knowledge about NCAA sports).
You must not have seen the list of the eight schools because you were busy: Looking forward to CFH magic for the next bball season, Georges style. -
Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
Awww, poor wittle baby wants an apawogy.
Not gonna happen.
Go back to your own board. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. If you happen to see "bite me" or "go-fly-a-kite" along the way, feel free to stop there.
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
 Originally Posted by mrfreddyx Awesome, I reserve the right to bash ISU without any valid reason.
Not that it matters anyways. It's not like anyone outside of Ames cares about Cyclone hoops (or possibly even knows it exists). Ouch...that really hurts! You know...we were just beginning to realize that ISU BB was not the center of the world that we thought it was...wait...I am thinking of Kentucky and their fans! Oh yeah...Kentucky...the program that dreams of the future as being Duke, UNC or UCLA! Keep dreaming or start living in the past because it is over!
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
Why aplogize to one of the most penalized schools in college basketball history.
Ah, Kentucky
6 million people, 15 last names.
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Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
Here is why we can't get any recruits - they are taken too early in the middle school: Sports > Colleges > UK Wildcats > UK Basketball Thursday, May 29, 2008 UK Basketball Posted on Fri, May. 02, 2008 Gillispie lands commitment from eighth-grader Gillispie lands commitment from eighth-grader UK COACH SAW CALIFORNIA YOUTH AT EVENT IN OHIO By Jerry Tipton JTIPTON@HERALD-LEADER.COM 
UK president Lee T. Todd Jr., left, responding to news of Coach Billy Gillispie's recruiting effort, said that he hoped such occurrences were rare. UKAA to fund use of plane Comments
One day. Two games. An eighth-grader competing against players 15-years-old and younger.
Those factors made for perhaps the most surprising commitment in the history of University of Kentucky basketball. UK Coach Billy Gillispie noticed Michael Avery, an eighth-grader from Lake Sherwood, Calif., while attending a youth basketball event sponsored by LeBron James last weekend in Akron, Ohio.
Less than a week later, Avery accepted Gillispie's offer of a scholarship to play for the Wildcats ... beginning with the 2012-13 season.
"Oh my goodness," recruiting analyst Brick Oettinger said of the commitment. "A school taking a commitment from someone that young -- there's no telling what will happen."
In four years of high school (by the way, Avery has not yet decided what high school he will attend), the 6-foot-4 guard could get injured. He could have peaked physically, meaning he could be surpassed athletically by other players who mature later.
And who's to say Gillispie will be Kentucky's coach in 2012?
"We're taking things one day at a time," the player's father, Howard Avery, said on Thursday. "Right now, (Gillispie) is there and he's a terrific coach. Without a doubt, Kentucky is a terrific program. Factors change. I'm not going to worry about 25,000 different things when I'm trying to get through this day."
When news of the commitment reached a meeting of the UK Athletics Association Board of Directors on Thursday, it stunned school President Lee T. Todd Jr.
"An eighth-grader?!" he blurted out.
After noting that plenty of time remained for such an early commitment to be rescinded, Todd expressed his wish that Kentucky not regularly seek a college choice from a child who had not yet entered high school.
"Not that you'd tell people not to ever do it," Todd said, "But I'd hope there aren't very many eighth-graders thinking of playing at a specific college. ...
"I'm much more of a proponent of getting kids through high school in Kentucky and then make college choices."
While saying he understood why college coaches might offer a scholarship to an eighth-grader, Todd added, "I'd hope there's not a huge number of those."
Oettinger, who analyzes recruiting for the Prep Stars service, has not seen Avery play.
"All I've got to say is he must have played awfully well" to prompt Gillispie's scholarship offer, Oettinger surmised.
Actually, Howard Avery said his son, who came off the bench for the Indiana Elite AAU team, did not "light it up" the day Gillispie happened to be watching. But the father got word that the UK coach liked what he saw. So he tried to call Gillispie once on Saturday and twice on Sunday. When he didn't get a reply, "I just figured he didn't have interest or was just being nice," the elder Avery said.
Avery, a tax accountant and CPA in Santa Monica, Calif., called again from home on Monday. This time Gillispie answered, and explained that NCAA recruiting rules prohibited him from calling the father.
That out of the way, Gillispie confirmed his interest in Michael Avery. "I like him so much, I want him to come and I'll give him a scholarship," the elder Avery remembered Gillispie saying.
To which, Howard Avery replied, "You're joking, right?"
"No," Gillispie said, "I'm serious."
After consulting with people wise in the ways of basketball, Howard Avery gave his son permission to consider Gillispie's offer.
Michael Avery, so absorbed by basketball that his father said he doesn't have "a lot of spare time to go to movies," is well aware that Kentucky rates among the elite college programs.
"Of all those schools, Kentucky is where I'd want to go ... " Howard Avery said in quoting his son.
"I know people say, why would you do that now? We could get 150 more (scholarship offers). But we only want one good school and one good coach. It's an absolute blessing we have both of them with Kentucky."
The elder Avery noted how the decision has risks, but also an upside. For instance, it takes the pressure off his son to try to seek exposure, endure the recruiting process or prove on the high school level. His son can concentrate on getting better and having fun.
But first, Michael Avery must decide what high school he'll attend. He's considering Crespi High in Encino, Calif., and a private school in Culver, Ind.
Former UCLA guard Rod Foster and ex-BYU point guard Chris Nikchevich tutored Avery. Though he played last season for Ascension Lutheran Middle School in Thousand Oaks, Calif., his father dismissed that experience. "He could go out and score 50 points, if he wanted to," the elder Avery said. "I wouldn't even count that. That was just for fun."
By contrast, a college commitment is serious business. That Avery committed to Kentucky surprised his AAU coach, Dinos Trigonis.
When asked to appraise Avery, Trigonis paused and said, "He's a young player. Very skilled. A lot of court instinct. But to be quite honest, not just for him but for anybody, it's somewhat premature."
Looking forward to CFH magic for the next bball season, Georges style. -
Re: Apologies are due (Kentucky)
 Originally Posted by mrfreddyx Awesome, I reserve the right to bash ISU without any valid reason.
Not that it matters anyways. It's not like anyone outside of Ames cares about Cyclone hoops (or possibly even knows it exists). Some guy still hates me because his girlfriend cheated on him with me in high school. Weird thing is, that doesn't really affect me either. Can we get a Cybookie on whether or not the sun comes up tomorrow if this guy has a grudge against the Cyclones?
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