Wes headed to the 'Cuse

Clones85' · 06-25-2008, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK

Problem i have with this is "He would have been in the NBA if he had stayed at ISU"!!!!

Remember the NBA puts more into Potential then actual performance - thats why there are so many more busts in basketball then in football - try this from the 2003 draft....

Darko Milicic - #2 overall (bust)
Chris Kaman - #6 overall (bust)
Michael Sweetney - #9 overall (bust)
Jarvis Hayes - #10 (bust)
Michael Pietrus - #11 (bust)
Marcus Banks - #13 (bust)
Reece Gaines - #15 (bust)
Troy Bell - #16 (bust)
Zarko Cabarkapa - #17 (bust)
Zoran Planinic - #22 (bust)
Carlos Delfino - #25 (bust)
Ndudi Ebi - #26 (bust)

Lets look at the last 3 players taken in 2003 first round - Kendrick Perkins, Leandrinho Barbosa, Josh Howard.

Regardless of what he accomplished at Iowa State, the NBA will evaluate his tape and then hold workouts and IMO they put very little in college records and stats because they realize at the NBA level the talent is so much higher across the board that no individual (unless your elite talent Kobe, Lebron, MJ) can single handedly sustain a team. If you think that Syracuse has put out that great of NBA talent - name one that accomplished more then a hill of beans - Chris Mullin, Bill Weddington, Pearl Washington, Hakim Warrick - no a lot going on there as far NBA headliners!!!! Before you say it, i will give you Dave Bing, ask todays players who dave bing is and i bet you get a great reaction!!!!

There is this guy named Carmelo Anthony who I believe is pretty decent

St. Lou Clone · 06-25-2008, 08:11 AM

I think most people know that Carmelo Anthony went to Syracuse. And current NBA player Hakim Warrick went there as well.

If I remember correctly Anthony just made the olympic team. And I think he is thought of as one of the top ten players in the league right now.

Legend12 · 06-25-2008, 08:12 AM

And before you knock Mullin, please remember he was a member of the original Dream Team (which still gets a fair amount of press) and a 5 time All-Star.

isuno1fan · 06-25-2008, 08:12 AM

Gotta admit I was wrong. Really thought he'd end up at tOSU.

isucyfan · 06-25-2008, 08:12 AM

Don't forget Rony Seikaly, Derrick Coleman, and Sherman Douglas.

isucyfan · 06-25-2008, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Legend12

And before you knock Mullin, please remember he was a member of the original Dream Team (which still gets a fair amount of press) and a 5 time All-Star.

Mullin went to St. John's.

Nedrick · 06-25-2008, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK

Chris Kaman - #6 overall (bust)

While being #6 overall might have been a little high, I don't believe many people would call Kaman a bust. And while he's no all-star, he's pretty highly valued by the Clips. (If for no other reason that decent centers are such a premium these days).

Just my 2¢...

Oh, and I'm content that WJ went east where we probably won't have to deal with him again.

Legend12 · 06-25-2008, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by isucyfan

Mullin went to St. John's.

Yeah, but he was trying to knock Mullin so was trying to set him straight. (I assumed he was going with the "Knock the Big East" angle.)

ISUFan22 · 06-25-2008, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Legend12

I posted awhile back that Syracuse was one of the 5 schools he was slated to take an official visit to. The others were Ohio State, Pittsburgh, West Virginia and Louisville.

I was referring to people speculating that he would land there, not regurgitation of a report on the list of schools he was to be visiting.

cycloneworld · 06-25-2008, 08:20 AM

Carmelo was also HIGHLY touted out of high school and was basically NBA ready from Day 1. That can't be said about Wesley Johnson.

Also, if you think Syracuse basketball breeds NBA players...take a look at this list:
Syracuse University NBA Players

Not exactly a list full of NBA allstars.

tamjam · 06-25-2008, 08:21 AM

I never said that Syracuse puts out star NBA players, but you can't argue that they put a lot more guys in the NBA than ISU does.

KMAC_ATTACK · 06-25-2008, 08:26 AM

ooppssss forgot about him.....

Okay, i give you that one, he is a stud!!!!!

KMAC_ATTACK · 06-25-2008, 08:32 AM

Don't take my post wrong either, i'm not knocking Syracuse, i love their coach, system and overall program - its awesome!!!! Great following too - fun to watch those crowds in the dome on TV....

All i was mentioning was that Syracuse has put out one legit stud in our lifetime in the NBA.....

I wouldn't put tinsley there, nor would i put hornacek, fizer or any other cyclone in Anthony's level. However, i was referencing the fact that the NBA evaluates players based on POTENTIAL - thats what i think WJ has and he may polish it at Syracuse and he may not.

I wish him the best and now the only Wes i will be cheering for is Wes Eikmeier.....

Sorry for forgetting Anthony that was a bonehead monday morning thing - oh yeah its wednesday!!!!

cycloneworld · 06-25-2008, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by tamjam

I never said that Syracuse puts out star NBA players, but you can't argue that they put a lot more guys in the NBA than ISU does.

National Titles tend to do that. Although I could argue that ISU players have had more success than Syracuse players in the last 15 years.

BryceC · 06-25-2008, 08:43 AM

Good luck to Wes in the future and I'm glad the whole episode is over.