Barnes ready for visits

**cyclonenum1** · 10-15-2008, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by tidbit

I keep hearing Barnes will be a one and done, but I don't know where that idea came from! If he is looking for a school that has a good business college, as has been reported, then why would he be gone after one year. Sounds to me like he must be interested in a college that will develope him as a basketball player and also as a marketable professional after he is done playing basketball. If he was one and gone, he should care less about what he is learning, just what a school could give him in the preperation for the pros!!

If this kid is as good as he is being billed...the answer is money...major life altering money. You can always come back to get your degree after your knees are shot from playing.

Let me tell you a little story. I coached a kid in baseball. He signed letter of intent to play at Tulane (both great academics and great baseball). He and his parents were totally committed to him going to college because they all value a college education. He was a first round draft talent but fell to the third round because most teams did not believe they could sign him (would have been a wasted pick). The Astros drafted him in the third round and offered him enough money that he and his parents changed their minds about the timing of college. He signed a contract with the Astros that provides he and his family with life altering wealth and also commits the Astros to pay for his college education when his career is over.

My story is about baseball...the money offered to lottery picks in the NBA is even greater than what MLB draftees get.

**nfrine** · 10-15-2008, 09:08 AM

Barnes looking forward to Kansas trip - The Shiver!

Click on above for link.

**cstrunk** · 10-15-2008, 09:11 AM

We all know this hasn't been and isn't going to be over soon. Barnes is going to take his time and make the right decision... for him.

He is going to wait until next year to decide.

**CyGuy33** · 10-15-2008, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

This kid would appear to be a can't miss talent but to say he would change the direction of our program forever is a little over the top. Let me ask you, did OJ Mayo change the USC program forever? Did Michael Beasley change the K-State program forever?

The people that change the direction of the program in a major way in college athletics are the coaches. Period. The key to having a long term solid program is having a top notch coach that can both recruit on an ongoing basis as well as coach on the floor.

Would you have ever asked that question about K-State or USC prior to those players going there? I guess that is a change in the program then.

As well, I'm sure it helps in recruiting when you can point to players who have recently came to your school, played one year, took you to the NCAA tournament, and then went to be top 5 draft picks. That changes the direction of your program forever.

If JT would have left Iowa State after one year would you consider him to have changed our program forever?

**Cydkar** · 10-15-2008, 09:24 AM

Tony Parker? He was a None and Done. :)

**HandSanitizer** · 10-15-2008, 09:32 AM

I think this really comes down to if he wants to be part of "Elite" team, (which always isn't so elite)
OR
Average 20+ Points a game at ISU be 1st team All Conference and if the 2010 class goes as planned we would have a Very nice team. (AKA - Be the Man)

**isuforlife** · 10-15-2008, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by tidbit

I keep hearing Barnes will be a one and done, but I don't know where that idea came from! If he is looking for a school that has a good business college, as has been reported, then why would he be gone after one year. Sounds to me like he must be interested in a college that will develope him as a basketball player and also as a marketable professional after he is done playing basketball. If he was one and gone, he should care less about what he is learning, just what a school could give him in the preperation for the pros!!

Money talks, NBA contract and he buys his degree!

**BryceC** · 10-15-2008, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by CyGuy33

If JT would have left Iowa State after one year would you consider him to have changed our program forever?

JT stayed two years. Fizer stayed three. I don't consider either to have changed our program forever. If they did, we wouldn't be where we are now.

#1 is right on this - only coaches can change a program forever.

**Clonefan94** · 10-15-2008, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by BryceC

#1 is right on this - only coaches can change a program forever.

Right, and there's a lot of pictures of a guy holding some Natty Light that kind of proves that.

**CyBobby** · 10-15-2008, 10:03 AM

Bobby's Bold Prediction of the day: ISU will land Harrison Barnes and the basketball fortunes will turn around in the near future!

Phillip Bates has proven he is not a division one quarterback..quote Ken Miller kxno

**no2cyclones** · 10-15-2008, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonemaniac7

Or Michael Beasley or Tony Parker or Kevin Durant or Greg Oden...

Tony Parker, huh? The same one that is the point guard for the Spurs? The same one that's married to Eva Longoria? The same one that played in France? The same one that never set foot on a college campus?

**Tornado man** · 10-15-2008, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Clonefan94

Right, and there's a lot of pictures of a guy holding some Natty Light that kind of proves that.

You are so right, 94!

**necromancy** · 10-15-2008, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Clonefan94

Right, and there's a lot of pictures of a guy holding some Natty Light that kind of proves that.

Ouch. Major pwnage!

**CyGuy33** · 10-15-2008, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by BryceC

JT stayed two years. Fizer stayed three. I don't consider either to have changed our program forever. If they did, we wouldn't be where we are now.

#1 is right on this - only coaches can change a program forever.

If you are saying JT's first season at Iowa State didn't change this program for ever, I don't under stand that. It was the best season our program ever had. It is what we compare every team to and we all strive to have this program become again.

Yeah Fizer helped, but if Tinsley would have gone pro then we would view him as a player that in one year completely changed our program and how we are viewed around the country.

**akclone** · 10-15-2008, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by bkurt58

Tony Parker, huh? The same one that is the point guard for the Spurs? The same one that's married to Eva Longoria? The same one that played in France? The same one that never set foot on a college campus?

Feel better now?