Brackins: no more 3's!!!

**throwittoblythe** · 10-28-2008, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

If Brackens is getting good at shooting 3 pointers I have no problem with him drilling them. Just because he is tall does not mean he can't make 3's. How awesome would it be if he could start hitting them consistantly. He would be impossible to guard. Inside outside game by himself.

I get sick and tired of people who want to take away part of his game because he is tall. Glad you guy did not coach Dirk Nowitski. (SP?)

Yes, but if our big man is outside shooting 3s all the time how will we fare on the offensive boards?

**cybsball20** · 10-28-2008, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by throwittoblythe

Yes, but if our big man is outside shooting 3s all the time how will we fare on the offensive boards?

If our big guy is shooting threes it also takes their big guy out of the rebounding equation.

**Harry** · 10-28-2008, 11:04 AM

I would be happy if Brackins turns out to be a good enough player to play 17 yrs. in the NBA.

**Knownothing** · 10-28-2008, 11:04 AM

If our big guy is shooting threes it also takes their big guy out of the rebounding equation.

You don't recruit a player and then change his game. You take his game and make it better. If we wanted a post up guy I am sure we would have went after a post up guy. Craigs game isn't a post up guy. He can take a guy down low but if your looking for Loren Meyer your not getting him. He is more of a Julious Michalik type guy. Maybe not as scary as Julo but you get the idea.

**throwittoblythe** · 10-28-2008, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

If our big guy is shooting threes it also takes their big guy out of the rebounding equation.

Good point. So, I guess the answer to the question is...Brackins should only shoot three's if he does not have a lane to drive or is not given the paint. If he does have the 3 available, he needs to make the shot consistently to make the defense come out and honor his shot.

**cybsball20** · 10-28-2008, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by throwittoblythe

Good point. So, I guess the answer to the question is...Brackins should only shoot three's if he does not have a lane to drive or is not given the paint. If he does have the 3 available, he needs to make the shot consistently to make the defense come out and honor his shot.

Exactly....

**JJ4ISU** · 10-28-2008, 11:17 AM

I am guessing the guys defending Brackins are 6'3 or taller and the guys against Brackins shooting a lot of 3s are 6'1 and under...is anyone 6'2? they just say they're 6'3, right?

**kg-cyclone** · 10-28-2008, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

You don't recruit a player and then change his game. You take his game and make it better. If we wanted a post up guy I am sure we would have went after a post up guy. Craigs game isn't a post up guy. He can take a guy down low but if your looking for Loren Meyer your not getting him. He is more of a Julious Michalik type guy. Maybe not as scary as Julo but you get the idea.

Brackins is definately a post up guy...He needs to work on getting a deeper seal.

**isucyfan** · 10-28-2008, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

Brackins is definately a post up guy...He needs to work on getting a deeper seal.

He needs to learn not to fall away on everything down low. That will come with strength. He will be dangerous when he can absorb contact and score.

**kg-cyclone** · 10-28-2008, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by isucyfan

He needs to learn not to fall away on everything down low. That will come with strength. He will be dangerous when he can absorb contact and score.

That's the plan...hopefully with both hands.

**cybsball20** · 10-28-2008, 11:24 AM

I wanna see some baby hooks. You can't stop the baby hook...

**gocubs2118** · 10-28-2008, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

You don't recruit a player and then change his game. You take his game and make it better. If we wanted a post up guy I am sure we would have went after a post up guy. Craigs game isn't a post up guy. He can take a guy down low but if your looking for Loren Meyer your not getting him. He is more of a Julious Michalik type guy. Maybe not as scary as Julo but you get the idea.

He is almost 7 feet tall. There is no reason why we shouldn't develop his post up game. Making him a better post up player isn't changing his game, its to try and get him better. Craig should be able to shoot 3's just so they opponent knows that he is a threat out there. He could be really effective if he learns how how pump fake and then drive to the hoop. He could score a lot of points that way.

**kg-cyclone** · 10-28-2008, 11:28 AM

It's not about changing anybodys game...it's adding tools/weapons to keep the defense honest.

**mplscyclone** · 10-28-2008, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

If Brackens is getting good at shooting 3 pointers I have no problem with him drilling them. Just because he is tall does not mean he can't make 3's. How awesome would it be if he could start hitting them consistantly. He would be impossible to guard. Inside outside game by himself.

I get sick and tired of people who want to take away part of his game because he is tall. Glad you guy did not coach Dirk Nowitski. (SP?)

I don't consider him a "good" 3 point shooter. Is it something he can do occasionally? Yes. It's not a shoot he should be looking for consistentley.

You can have an inside-outside game without shooting many 3s. Look at Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, etc. A 15-18 foot jumper is enough to keep the defense on its toes.

**cgwarrior33** · 10-28-2008, 12:51 PM

Motion offenses are based on reads...(so is the dribble drive motion offense, if reports are correct that we will be running this soon)...the ability to have players who can compliment each other at the positions to allow you to make the correct reads and take what the defense gives you. CB and AT can both shoot it out to 15-18 consistently. This allows them to read off of each other and use inside out techniques. The one thing that hurt us last year was the lack of ability to do motion based movements. Coach Mac used sets too many times last year when I thought "just letting them play" would have been to our advantage. The team seemed to, at times, get pretty set in how they would do things...i.e. only down screen. I think sometimes with sets, players get too into a certain movement...down screens, rear screens...and forget the double screens, fade screens, pick and roll or pick and pop can be highly effective in just getting the ball reversed and softening the defense.

Now, if we do indeed go to the dribble drive motion offense, this will greatly help our post play. This allows the post player to relax and look for rebounding position while you have 4 others out on the perimeter looking for penetration lanes. It also opens up back door cuts, cleaner looks from the 3, more space for pick and roll situations between the big and the perimeter players, and easier dump downs to the post off of penetration. You do not have to rely on post ups to create post offense. You allow the players to simply read and react to the defense. It can create some stagnant action in the offense, but it is also simple to create movement, but diving through the defense and simply rolling over to the next spot, then, "playing off of penetration."