Creighton vs. ISU scrimmage

**Clones85'** · 11-01-2008, 10:10 PM

Information gets leaked on these closed practices all the time. Last year we knew that Beasley scored 40 against Marguette

**jay moe** · 11-02-2008, 10:36 AM

Coach McDermott mentioned that they need to cut down on their turnovers, sounds like a broken record from last season. I hope we are much better in that category this year.

**Melvin** · 11-02-2008, 10:51 AM

I see no benefit in playing Creighton. Are we trying to recruit Omaha? The Mo Valley schools to play Big 12 schools so they can get more respect, its a lose-lose for us.

If they would do a 2 for 1 series, it would make sense, but otherwise, ISU would be better off to play Wisconsin, Minnesota or another big name school to get some exposure.

**rworkman83** · 11-02-2008, 10:52 AM

This quote from Mac kind of explains why they played this...

This was the first time ISU has conducted a closed scrimmage for one of its exhibitions. Did you like the format?
“What we gained from this compared to an exhibition game is too much to even measure. This is better than any practice you could have and better than any exhibition you could play. Because of the situations that are created, the guys are putting on the uniform, they feel the pressure and they feel live game situations. All in all, it was a huge benefit to us.”

**Cydar** · 11-02-2008, 12:03 PM

Here's Courtney Linehan's Article in Sunday's Ames Trib:

Men's basketball: Cyclones get dress rehearsal in closed scrimmage with Creighton

**06Panther** · 11-02-2008, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Melvin

I see no benefit in playing Creighton. Are we trying to recruit Omaha? The Mo Valley schools to play Big 12 schools so they can get more respect, its a lose-lose for us.

If they would do a 2 for 1 series, it would make sense, but otherwise, ISU would be better off to play Wisconsin, Minnesota or another big name school to get some exposure.

It was a CLOSED scrimmage. In other words, it was a practice. How are you expecting ISU to get good exposure for a practice? And like I said before, Creighton does not need Iowa State to gain respect. I'm sure they beat them in the scrimmage anyway.

**Wesley** · 11-02-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by 06Panther

It was a CLOSED scrimmage. In other words, it was a practice. How are you expecting ISU to get good exposure for a practice? And like I said before, Creighton does not need Iowa State to gain respect. I'm sure they beat them in the scrimmage anyway.

I guess some will take any win they can get.

**CyinCo** · 11-02-2008, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by 06Panther

It was a CLOSED scrimmage. In other words, it was a practice. How are you expecting ISU to get good exposure for a practice? And like I said before, Creighton does not need Iowa State to gain respect. I'm sure they beat them in the scrimmage anyway.

You are sure? How can you be sure?

**clone52** · 11-02-2008, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by 06Panther

It was a CLOSED scrimmage. In other words, it was a practice. How are you expecting ISU to get good exposure for a practice? And like I said before, Creighton does not need Iowa State to gain respect. I'm sure they beat them in the scrimmage anyway.

I don't think that poster was talking about the scrimmage, rather the debate on whether we should start a real series with them.

**theshadow** · 11-02-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Melvin

I see no benefit in playing Creighton.

It's a glorified practice, so there's no reason for a whole lot of travel. Nebraska played Marquette. Iowa played DePaul. All of these types of "games" were regional in nature.

**StLouisClone** · 11-02-2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by SeattleClone

Understandable. So why is this game closed? We played Coe and Morningside in the past and they were regular open exhibitions, right?

I don't remember a game against Coe, but the game against Morningside was a regular season game. I remember that game well. They took us to OT before Tinsley and company put them away.

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**lostjayhawk** · 11-02-2008, 03:57 PM

The main question: Did P'Allen Stinnett turn you guys down again?

Creighton > ISU

Altman > McDermott

**isucyfan** · 11-02-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by lostjayhawk

The main question: Did P'Allen Stinnett turn you guys down again?

Creighton > ISU

Altman > McDermott

Not sure what you mean by the Stinnett comment, but he's a good player, and did commit here before the regime change.

I agree that Creighton's program is better than ours right now, but it remains to be seen who is the better coach in the long term. I think Altman's a good coach.

Were you looking for an argument or something?