Kyle Kelm

**Clonegrad07** · 11-18-2008, 01:39 PM

wait... why are we excited about a 1 star guy with our biggest competition being Minnesota?

**Clones85'** · 11-18-2008, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Clonegrad07

wait... why are we excited about a 1 star guy with our biggest competition being Minnesota?

Rivals (who is much better than scout) has him as a top 150 players. Our biggest competition for him is Iowa.

**Clones85'** · 11-18-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by BryceC

My point was they are both post players and can probably play at the same time. I think it's a valid point. But please, let me know if anything else I say on here is really poor, haha.

Never said that it was not a valid point, just that your comparison was poor.

**kg-cyclone** · 11-18-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Clonegrad07

wait... why are we excited about a 1 star guy with our biggest competition being Minnesota?

Personally, I put zero stock into the number of stars behind somebody's name.

**SpRiNgLiMe** · 11-18-2008, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

From everything we have heard about Kelm and Dykstra they seem to play a lot alike.

Kelm shoots the three more than Dykstra, who has more post moves.

They are not the same player. They have the same dimensions but not the same skills.

**cybsball20** · 11-18-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by SpRiNgLiMe

Kelm shoots the three more than Dykstra, who has more post moves.

They are not the same player. They have the same dimensions but not the same skills.

Dykstra spent nearly the entire AAU season bombing threes.

**Cydkar** · 11-18-2008, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

Personally, I put zero stock into the number of stars behind somebody's name.

HB is a 5 star.

**kg-cyclone** · 11-18-2008, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Cydkar

HB is a 5 star.

What was he when we offered?

Only became a 5 star after the big boys offered. Recruiting services are clueless...they can only report what they are "given". So basically only information that the recruit or coaches what people to know about.

**Knownothing** · 11-18-2008, 02:35 PM

Honestly the 5 star recruits are almost never misses. Sometime they are but mostly the recruiting people know the big boys. Usually 4 stars are right on as well. It's when they get to 3 star guys and 2 star guys. Sometimes they should be ranked higher than a 3 star or 2 star guy. They just don't have enough info on them. Sometimes the 3 star guys should be no star guys (Aaron Agnew).

**kg-cyclone** · 11-18-2008, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

Honestly the 5 star recruits are almost never misses. Sometime they are but mostly the recruiting people know the big boys. Usually 4 stars are right on as well. It's when they get to 3 star guys and 2 star guys. Sometimes they should be ranked higher than a 3 star or 2 star guy. They just don't have enough info on them. Sometimes the 3 star guys should be no star guys (Aaron Agnew).

Only a 5 star based on who offered...Not saying they're wrong...I'm saying there basing their opinion on the people who actually did their homework on a recruit.

**SpRiNgLiMe** · 11-18-2008, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Dykstra spent nearly the entire AAU season bombing threes.

I guess I'm just going on regular season stats. Also, I can only find through 7 games for Dykstra and 26 games for Kelm so it could be way off with the small sample size in Dykstra's case.

3PA 3PA/G
Dykstra: 4 .6
Kelm: 60 2.3

Again, could be way off. But I'm just trying to show my impression of each player. It SEEMS like Dykstra plays down low when it counts. He could have been practicing his perimeter play in AAU or I could be wrong and he is a perimeter player. I was just going on the very little that I have seen of him and the little stats I have to my disposal.

**Cloned4Life** · 11-18-2008, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

Only a 5 star based on who offered...Not saying they're wrong...I'm saying there basing their opinion on the people who actually did their homework on a recruit.

Which is probably a pretty accurate way to go about it... 5 star (and heck, even 4 star) rankings mean a lot, IMO. They almost always pan out.

**CyRide3** · 11-18-2008, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

What was he when we offered?

Only became a 5 star after the big boys offered. Recruiting services are clueless...they can only report what they are "given". So basically only information that the recruit or coaches what people to know about.

Don't know where you are getting your info, but if you look back through the threads Harrison was a top 15 recruit last May, when he only had offers from us, Indiana State, and Iowa. After being evaluated throughout the summer he rose to 5*, so I don't think it had anything to do with offers.

Believe me, when we offered we knew exactly what we were getting (5*). Heard Coach Prioleau walked into a gym in Texas a couple years ago to see Harrison play and said to the staff, We haven't offered this kid yet and he's in our backyard? He's a pro.

**Clones85'** · 11-18-2008, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

Only a 5 star based on who offered...Not saying they're wrong...I'm saying there basing their opinion on the people who actually did their homework on a recruit.

Not true at all. Those guys at Rivals are at every single tournament. They see thousands of guys play in every class.

Obviously they can't watch everyone play, but they are pretty good at eyeing talent

**kg-cyclone** · 11-18-2008, 03:16 PM

Okay...If you guys say so...

Maybe a question to ask is....If they are that good...Why are they working for a recruiting service?

They talk to the coaches......Recruiting services are just relaying information.