Did the non-conference record match your expectations?

**CyGuy33** · 01-07-2009, 12:05 PM

Record wise, we are right where I thought we would be. Unless we go .500 in the conference we aren't going to the post season.

**cygrads** · 01-07-2009, 12:10 PM

Our record is what I thought it would be considering the very easy schedule but it is the way we got to the record that has me worried about the conference record - I would be surprised to win 4 conference games.

**ISUFan22** · 01-07-2009, 12:15 PM

If we win any more than 6 conference games - that would be one helluva transformation from what we've seen so far. I think it'll be rather tough for us to get more than 5...

**Clones21** · 01-07-2009, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by cygrads

Our record is what I thought it would be considering the very easy schedule but it is the way we got to the record that has me worried about the conference record - I would be surprised to win 4 conference games.

4?!?!?!? If we dont win more than that then Mcd is going to be on the hot seat

**CyGuy33** · 01-07-2009, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

4?!?!?!? If we dont win more than that then Mcd is going to be on the hot seat

I don't see us winning any more then 4. I think 3 maybe the top we get.

**Clones21** · 01-07-2009, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by CyGuy33

I don't see us winning any more then 4. I think 3 maybe the top we get.

i understand what your sayin but dang man.i think were a bit better than what we were last year

**vmbplayer** · 01-07-2009, 12:20 PM

This is not meant to be a bash on our current coach at all, but...

We have not played anyone worth while this non-conf season like we used to. Remember when we'd play random teams like Virginia Tech in Non-Conf a few years ago. I mean it wasn't a killer schedule at all, but we scheduled some names that had the chance that were considered "quality wins" if we pulled them off when they were considering teams for post season tournaments.

IMO, we have to go at least a game or two over .500 in conference play to get even NIT consideration because we don't have anything to hang our hat on with our non-conf schedule/record. Also, a win or two against rated opponents in conference play would be very beneficial, lets hope it starts with Texas.

**vmbplayer** · 01-07-2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

i understand what your sayin but dang man.i think were a bit better than what we were last year

we are, but there was a lot of room to improve from last season to this season when it comes to playing Big 12 competition. We're better than we were last year, but still worse than most the conference. I'm guessing placement around 10th or 11th in Big 12.

**ISUChippewa** · 01-07-2009, 12:47 PM

There is no CBI anymore (I'm pretty sure).

As far as I know, the CBI still exists. It is a complete joke of a tournament (a sub .500 team in Cincinnati was invited to it last season), but at this point in our program, I would take any sort of post-season tournament.

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**aweb84** · 01-07-2009, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by EggMcClone

We're not winning 7 conference games.

Why not?

**CyGuy33** · 01-07-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by ISUChippewa

There is no CBI anymore (I'm pretty sure).

As far as I know, the CBI still exists. It is a complete joke of a tournament (a sub .500 team in Cincinnati was invited to it last season), but at this point in our program, I would take any sort of post-season tournament.

College Basketball Invitational - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The CBI is what the NIT use to be. It is a way for a company to sell money and if you are a half way decent team with a proven ability to sell tickets you'll get a game.

**Clones21** · 01-07-2009, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by aweb84

Why not?

i think we'll win 7 or 8

**CyGuy33** · 01-07-2009, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

i understand what your sayin but dang man.i think were a bit better than what we were last year

I'm not optimistic about Big 12 play. We haven't beaten a team in that finished in the top half of the Big 12 since Mac's first game coaching in the league. Until we prove that we are going to struggle.

**Clones21** · 01-07-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by CyGuy33

I'm not optimistic about Big 12 play. We haven't beaten a team in that finished in the top half of the Big 12 since Mac's first game coaching in the league. Until we prove that we are going to struggle.

Butttttttttttt we may improve in the big 12 to get us past 5 games..I think were one of the teams that could upset a Texas or Baylor club

**BryceC** · 01-07-2009, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by acrozier22

I think 5 wins gets us in the NIT.

The wins and losses matched my expectations, however I have been disappointed in the way they have played.

As for the NIT, I don't think they've taken a team with less than 18 wins the last two years since the NCAA bought them. I think we'd need 19 with our SOS and RPI.