Chris Colvin Article in Chicago Sun-Times

**Aclone** · 01-08-2009, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

Nope. Not 3 years into his system, and when all of the starters have 2 years of experience now.

They've only been here a year and a half, and have two years experience?

That's the two senior walkons, and Craig Brackins, by the way.

**cyismydog** · 01-08-2009, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

While I don't disagree with you guys, I want to know why everyone thinks Gilstrap will pick up this so called offense so quick, and Colvin won't? I know Colvin is a PG but watch DG and tell me if there is anything he does that appears to be rocket science

Truth is that Greg McDermott's so called tough offense scheme to understand is a MYTH, a FAIRY TALE, and is simply not true.

What on our offense appears to be hard to learn? The players don't move, so that can't be it. They don't set screens, or very little screens, so that can't be difficult either.

Maybe they don't move because they don't know the playbook.

I have seen our play book, and we have a ton of movement incorporated in our offense, but right now, we can't go into the more complex stuff because: our young guys don't understand it yet. If you honestly believe that our offense involves standing around and no screens, think again. Right now we only use the screen and rescreen because the players don't know the plays completely yet.

**Rick** · 01-08-2009, 09:01 PM

If the playbook is that hard to learn and not something you pick up quickly wont this run off a few kids who want playing time early once the program gets off the ground? most kids will start to notice and we will miss out on some top notch players. Maybe I am all wet but we dont have much to offer and this will make it one less thing.

**Aclone** · 01-08-2009, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

If the playbook is that hard to learn and not something you pick up quickly wont this run off a few kids who want playing time early once the program gets off the ground? most kids will start to notice and we will miss out on some top notch players. Maybe I am all wet but we dont have much to offer and this will make it one less thing.

Well, Chris Colvin thinks he's going to get early playing time, so you decide.

**Clones85'** · 01-08-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

They've only been here a year and a half, and have two years experience?

That's the two senior walkons, and Craig Brackins, by the way.

Originally Posted by cyismydog

Maybe they don't move because they don't know the playbook.

I have seen our play book, and we have a ton of movement incorporated in our offense, but right now, we can't go into the more complex stuff because: our young guys don't understand it yet. If you honestly believe that our offense involves standing around and no screens, think again. Right now we only use the screen and rescreen because the players don't know the plays completely yet.

hahahahahahahahha you guys are living in a fantasy world OR you are spinning our offensive woes.

Do you guys honestly think that McDermott runs this extra special offense that nobody else in the country runs? If so, you are naive.

Do you guys watch college basketball? Do you realize we aren't THAT young? Compare us to other teams. Yes we are young, but there are younger teams that are looking much better that we are. Their offense looks much more smooth!

You have 4 years to play ball! 4! How long does it take you to learn the offense??!??!?! It shouldn't take you more than a year! You practice everyday!

Let's face it, our offense is bad. He runs a blah offense. This is a fact. Stats at all his other stops back it up, and can't be argued.

**cybsball20** · 01-08-2009, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by cyismydog

Maybe they don't move because they don't know the playbook.

I have seen our play book, and we have a ton of movement incorporated in our offense, but right now, we can't go into the more complex stuff because: our young guys don't understand it yet. If you honestly believe that our offense involves standing around and no screens, think again. Right now we only use the screen and rescreen because the players don't know the plays completely yet.

If a college coach in the Big XII has a 'playbook' that takes two full years to learn, he really needs to reconsider his 'playbook'. You win with an 'offense', not plays...

**troyrew** · 01-08-2009, 11:46 PM

When Brakins goes pro and mac is run will he still come?

**Clones85'** · 01-08-2009, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

If a college coach in the Big XII has a 'playbook' that takes two full years to learn, he really needs to reconsider his 'playbook'. You win with an 'offense', not plays...

Like usual, you are correct

Problem is, that a lot of guys around here like to use EXCUSES when we don't do something right. They did it for Chizik and they do it for Mac

**IP Guy** · 01-09-2009, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

Like usual, you are correct

Problem is, that a lot of guys around here like to use EXCUSES when we don't do something right. They did it for Chizik and they do it for Mac

As a UNI grad who watched quite a few UNI games under Coach Mac (and an ISU season ticket holder for the past five years), I would suspect you see what you want to see.

Did McD's system slow the ball down and only take quality shots at UNI? Yes. So, are his scoring totals at UNI lower than what you personally desire? Yes.

Was his offense boring? No.

Did the UNI teams stand around without movement? No. In fact, they had some of the best movement I have seen in years. The back screens and screening of the screener were something that reminded me of the Tim Floyd / Fred Hoiberg / Hurl Beechum days.

When we were winning all those games under Floyd, were we scoring in the 80s and 90s? No. When we beat Kansas in the final game of the Big 8 Tournament, did we even reach 60 points? No. Does that make the offense a "boring" or "bad" offense? Maybe to you, but not to me.