Wow, We're Playing Against a Really Young / Inexperienced Kansas Team

**kucyclone** · 01-19-2009, 03:16 PM

According to Ken Pom, KU is the 12th least experienced team in the country (out of 344). ISU is the 143rd least experienced team in the country.

If ISU comes to play and plays physical, they'll be in the game in the second half. KU doesn't have the toughness they had last year. Chalmers, Robinson, Collins, and Jackson were all tough for KU last year. Now, I'm not sure I see much toughness outside of Collins and Aldrich, which has showed when KU is away from its home crowds.

**Clones85'** · 01-19-2009, 03:20 PM

according to that we have one of the taller teams in the country

**CyinCo** · 01-19-2009, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

All that KU talent apparently didn't bother a decimated Arizona team, which pounded the Jayhawks in Tucson. Outside of Budinger and Horne, the Wildcats don't have much. Oh, and they are currently 2-4 in the Pac 10.
KU is very beatable, unless ISU talks themselves out of it.

I agree they are very beatable. In fact, I feel like ISU has a good chance to win this. Kansas is going to get better through the season just like ISU has. The difference, though, is they have 4 star talent nearly 2 deep getting better and we have a former walk-on as a starter.

I think we'll win but the talent difference is notable and shouldn't simply be brushed aside.

**Rick** · 01-19-2009, 03:59 PM

Right now I dont see the talent but then we never did have the talent to keep up with them. A must win is such a cliche'. If we win its because we play better than we normally do and they don't. If they play their A game like Missou did we dont have the personnel to keep up.

**cyclonepower02** · 01-19-2009, 03:59 PM

Kansas has had there ups and downs, Iowa Sate has had there ups and downs. We'll find out which teams come to play.

**cyclonepower02** · 01-19-2009, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonepower02

Kansas has had there ups and downs, Iowa Sate has had there ups and downs. We'll find out which teams come to play.

Unfortunately, Iowa State has had more "downs."

Kansas really only was disappointing against UMASS, other than that loses to Syracuse, Arizona and Michigan State are expected.

I'm pretty sure the Jay Hawks are better than most people think. I mean, 13-4 with a rather tough schedule looks good.

**kucyclone** · 01-19-2009, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonepower02

Kansas has had there ups and downs, Iowa Sate has had there ups and downs. We'll find out which teams come to play.

And with this worthless, grammatically poor post, you are going on ignore. I should have done it three days ago.

**cyclonepower02** · 01-19-2009, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by kucyclone

And with this worthless, grammatically poor post, you are going on ignore. I should have done it three days ago.

sorry for using the wrong "their"

and go ahead and block me if you want, why would I care?

**Clones85'** · 01-19-2009, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonepower02

Unfortunately, Iowa State has had more "downs."

Kansas really only was disappointing against UMASS, other than that loses to Syracuse, Arizona and Michigan State are expected.

I'm pretty sure the Jay Hawks are better than most people think. I mean, 13-4 with a rather tough schedule looks good.

You just quoted your own post write after you typed it. That is worse than laughing at your own terrible joke when nobody else is laughing

**Rick** · 01-19-2009, 04:06 PM

Time to play nice. No grammar cops needed. And I am not even a moderator!

**cyclonepower02** · 01-19-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Time to play nice. No grammar cops needed. And I am not even a moderator!

thank you. btw, i dont think being too young is that bad these days.

UCLA and Memphis both had freshman studs last year. well okay, neither team (isu or kansas) has players from the top 3, but teams like wake forest are making great use of young talent.

**Tornado man** · 01-19-2009, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Right now I dont see the talent but then we never did have the talent to keep up with them. A must win is such a cliche'. If we win its because we play better than we normally do and they don't. If they play their A game like Missou did we dont have the personnel to keep up.

We should win in Hilton against every team unless they are in the top 15 or 20. Kansas is far from that.
Yes, the team should have a "must win" mindset. How else do you win the 50-50 games? Arizona was down by three at the half, then came out and buried KU. They didn't do that by telling themselves they couldn't match KU's personnel. They did it by not "letting" Kansas play their "A" game.
As other posters have said, this is the year to get them, and send a message to Barnes, among others.

**cyclonepower02** · 01-19-2009, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

We should win in Hilton against every team unless they are in the top 15 or 20. Kansas is far from that.
Yes, the team should have a "must win" mindset. How else do you win the 50-50 games? Arizona was down by three at the half, then came out and buried KU. They didn't do that by telling themselves they couldn't match KU's personnel. They did it by not "letting" Kansas play their "A" game.
As other posters have said, this is the year to get them, and send a message to Barnes, among others.

Yeah, we should win all of our home games except for Oklahoma and maybe Baylor

**clones26** · 01-24-2009, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by clones26

We should win as long as Collins and Aldrich are held in check. Collins is waayyy better than Petey but hopefully Brackins can keep Aldrich in check and not visa versa

Originally Posted by Clones85'

IMO Collins is the most overrated player I have watched in a long time. The guy is a TO machine

Looks like we didnt accomplish what I had hoped. 26pts & 16pts/12 rebs arent good for us.

'85- I would take 26 pts and 3 turnovers anyday, yeah overrated

**ISUFan22** · 01-24-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by clones26

Looks like we didnt accomplish what I had hoped. 26pts & 16pts/12 rebs arent good for us.

'85- I would take 26 pts and 3 turnovers anyday, yeah overrated

Yay you for gloating about a player that helped beat us today. You rock!