Post game thoughts

**erikbj** · 01-24-2009, 03:15 PM

KU is not very good for being 4-0 in the conference. ISU should have won this game, however Lucca couldn't shoot, DG made too many T/O's and McD had no (decent) game plan to stop Collins - there only player worth a ****.

This was frustrating loss to take, because I felt ISU was a better team - they just can't execute.....don't know if you blame that on the players or their preperation.

**hiltonisheaven** · 01-24-2009, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by clonomaniac

I say fire coach MAC for not preparing for this game. Man, if one of the other guys step up, we win this game - no doubt.

Not sure which game you were watching...there were lots of well drawn up plays where a guy blew an open shot. MAC can't go out there and shoot it himself.

**Kyle** · 01-24-2009, 03:15 PM

We have no good 2nd option on offense other than Brackins. I thought our post defense was pretty good, but we gave them way too many open 3s.

**LeSchmick** · 01-24-2009, 03:17 PM

Even though we lost, the crowd and atmospere was awesome!!!

**Rightcyd** · 01-24-2009, 03:17 PM

As was stated by the announcers, GM put them in position but cannot make the shots for them.

**jburke** · 01-24-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by ilovetheclones

well brackins is the guy we all hoped he would develop into and looks like he is going in the right direction.

BUT come one can anyone else score......

Kansas shot lights out and we couldnt make anything

that is the story of the game

that and no one played defense that well

Yeah there is no way we should have expected to win that game with Craig doing all the scoring. Lucca not scoring till under a minute left really hurt too.

**rhillary** · 01-24-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by shagcarpetjesus

I posted this in the game thread, but I'll post it again here.

Self had an awesome gameplan. For the most part, they played Brackins straight up, but their guards were all over Staiger & Peterson. Brackins can go off for 50, but if nobody else contributes ISU is still going to lose. Garrett isn't a threat with the jump shot so they're sagging off of him. But whenever he drives into the lane KU is sending a second defender at him hard so he can't create for somebody else. Brackins really is our only multi-dimensional player. You focus on the rest of our team & take away what they do best, & we're screwed.

I don't think this is a coaching issue. I think this is an athelte issue. Plain and simple, KU has much, much better athletes. You hassle our outsider shooters, none of whom are a threat off the dribble, and you can really take them out of the game. Combine this with the fact that we shot 34.5% on the game & we didn't stand a chance. If the rest of the team knocks some shots down, this is a drastically different game. But I think KU's gameplan had a lot to do with the result of this game.

Great post! The thing we needed was Garrett or Lucca to knock down a few shots and that would've force KU to change their game plan but they didn't and kept everyone except Brackins from doing anything.

**Clonehomer** · 01-24-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by erikbj

How about putting someone else besides Petersen and Haluska on the Big 12's best player. Collins abused those two.

Exactly, they weren't scoring so what's the advantage of Haluska over someone like Cam Lee? He's the only guy on the team that can keep up with Collins. I just don't understand why they don't throw him in to at least cool down a shooter on fire.

**rhillary** · 01-24-2009, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Kyle

We have no good 2nd option on offense other than Brackins. I thought our post defense was pretty good, but we gave them way too many open 3s.

It didn't help that Collins was UNCANNY in the first half. That guy can ball!

**jburke** · 01-24-2009, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by erikbj

KU is not very good for being 4-0 in the conference. ISU should have won this game, however Lucca couldn't shoot, DG made too many T/O's and McD had no (decent) game plan to stop Collins - there only player worth a ****.

This was frustrating loss to take, because I felt ISU was a better team - they just can't execute.....don't know if you blame that on the players or their preperation.

I disagree with Collins, I though we shut him down in the second half, it was just that Aldrich started playing. I think that Collins had 18 at half-time and ended up with 25 maybe...

**ISUonthemove** · 01-24-2009, 03:19 PM

The problem is Craig is the only player athletic enough to play in the Big XII and I'm dead serious. No other player on our team would see much time on any other team. Sure we have great shooters, but they can't get open.

The only way next season will turn around is if Craig stays and Colvin, Gilstrap, Buckley and Pomlee make big impacts early.

Eik and DG would absolutely sit until they put on 25lbs. In fact I would sit them on the bench RIGHT NOW with 3 double cheeseburgers.

**nj829** · 01-24-2009, 03:19 PM

GM I thought did a great job in planning this one, just not the players to execute it. Collins did very little in the 2nd half, especially compared to the first. We have not a single person that could guard him regardless of the game plan, because the horses are not there. 2 senior walk-on guards vs. one of the best guards in the Big 12, I don't like our odds very well there to slow him down.

**johnsonjj** · 01-24-2009, 03:20 PM

A few made shots by anyone else and this is a different game. We have to be able to own the defensive boards, and we just didn't do that. Not many guards built like Collins in NCAA, but he made our guys look small. Our defense showed what it can do when it steps up. One thing Kansas showed that is a direct result of coaching...and led to so many wide open 3's, is that is the best screening team I have seen all year.

**erikbj** · 01-24-2009, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Clonehomer

Exactly, they weren't scoring so what's the advantage of Haluska over someone like Cam Lee? He's the only guy on the team that can keep up with Collins. I just don't understand why they don't throw him in to at least cool down a shooter on fire.

how about chaning up your defenses. Last week against Mizzou a 2-3 zone would have been nice against their speed. Today it would have been nice to get a box and 1 to get the ball out of Collins hands. Lack of coaching is exposing these kids to match ups that don't favor them.

**isucyfan** · 01-24-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by erikbj

how about chaning up your defenses. Last week against Mizzou a 2-3 zone would have been nice against their speed. Today it would have been nice to get a box and 1 to get the ball out of Collins hands. Lack of coaching is exposing these kids to match ups that don't favor them.

I thought about the box and 1 on Collins, but then thought better of it, because there wasn't one of our guys that could keep up with him.