What happen?

**kccyclone** · 01-28-2009, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

We simply can't win in the Big 12 conference without improving our guard play.

I agree. Our best teams of recent past had great guard play. A definite must for playing in the Big 12. Whether it was Willoughby and Holloway, Tinsley and Nurse/Horton or even Stinson and Blaylock, our guard play is what kept us in games. We need improvement from our guards.

**stormchaser** · 01-28-2009, 08:40 AM

Brackins = 24 points 9 rebounds
other 4 starters = 18 points 9 rebounds

You can't win with that kind of production.

I wasn't able to see the game so I don't know what kind of looks we had, but 18 points and 9 rebounds isn't going to get it done. Was the Buffs defense really that good?

Seems like we don't have any confidence right now, and we must of played right into Colorados game plan.

**chengyushen** · 01-28-2009, 08:49 AM

(1) We don;t have a second scoring option at all
(2) The team is having their heads down. Nobody took more than 5 hots last nights. No one has the guts to shoot

Originally Posted by stormchaser

Brackins = 24 points 9 rebounds
other 4 starters = 18 points 9 rebounds

You can't win with that kind of production.

I wasn't able to see the game so I don't know what kind of looks we had, but 18 points and 9 rebounds isn't going to get it done. Was the Buffs defense really that good?

Seems like we don't have any confidence right now, and we must of played right into Colorados game plan.

**d4nim4l** · 01-28-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I agree.

But that's not having control of the game. It's being on the cusp of it and squandering it. Again and again and again and again...

Semantics. A killer instinct would allow them to take control of the game. Just like it would allow them to finish off an opponent once they have control.

Alas, regardless of how you argue it, KG is right...no killer instinct. Anywhere.

**Wesley** · 01-28-2009, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

Stupid TOs and poor guard play killed us. We could have pulled away several times but we would instead make unforced TOs to keep them in the game. We simply can't win in the Big 12 conference without improving our guard play.

Brackins looked good as usual.

No wonder Greg keeps recruiting for point guards: we need a complete package one that bring ball up court like BP, one that passes like Buckley, one that plays defense like SH, one that shoots like Boozer/Lucca, one that can drive like DG. Right now we can have best combined parts of five/six guards that is still less than a Tinsley.

**4429 mcc** · 01-28-2009, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by d4nim4l

Semantics. A killer instinct would allow them to take control of the game. Just like it would allow them to finish off an opponent once they have control.

Alas, regardless of how you argue it, KG is right...no killer instinct. Anywhere.

I've always believed athletes either have it (killer instinct) or the don't. So what's that say for our future.

**ISUFan22** · 01-28-2009, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by d4nim4l

Semantics. A killer instinct would allow them to take control of the game. Just like it would allow them to finish off an opponent once they have control.

Alas, regardless of how you argue it, KG is right...no killer instinct. Anywhere.

Killer instinct is not our main problem. This is...

Originally Posted by stormchaser

Brackins = 24 points 9 rebounds
other 4 starters = 18 points 9 rebounds

I don't yearn for guys to have a killer instinct, yet. I'd just like them to actually have some instincts to begin with, show up and help Craig out. That stat is nothing short of completely embarrassing/pathetic/sickening/maddening.

**CloneIce** · 01-28-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Wesley

No wonder Greg keeps recruiting for point guards: we need a complete package one that bring ball up court like BP, one that passes like Buckley, one that plays defense like SH, one that shoots like Boozer/Lucca, one that can drive like DG. Right now we can have best combined parts of five/six guards that is still less than a Tinsley.

Yea, right now I'd settle for the 2nd coming of Ricky Morgan!

**Cydole** · 01-28-2009, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by kccyclone

I agree. Our best teams of recent past had great guard play. A definite must for playing in the Big 12. Whether it was Willoughby and Holloway, Tinsley and Nurse/Horton or even Stinson and Blaylock, our guard play is what kept us in games. We need improvement from our guards.

Ding ding ding. Until someone can attack the hoop and actually finish, our guards will continue to get smothered.

If DG can't finish at the rim, why is he out there? Way too many TO's lately. My first thought is to put Buckley in, but apparently that isn't going to happen. Move petey to the point and bring in boozer. At least he can shoot.