Program Building Analogy

**jtdoyle1** · 01-29-2009, 09:39 AM

It takes time to build a house (program) if you want it done right.

Depending on the circumstances a builder (coach) may get to the site and a building may just need a little remodeling or redecorating (good reputation, good players) or maybe they can start at ground level (reputable program needs new direction) or they might have to tear down an existing condemned building and start from scratch (no reputation, ncaa sanctions, no players).

To build a strong house you have to have a strong foundation. You have to dig deep and pour concrete and wait for it to dry. You have to wait for materials (players) to be delivered. You have to get the walls set, wires run, insulation in, etc. This all takes time and to the average homeowner (fan) this can look messy, unorganized, and they can't see the progress being made.

Sometimes a homeowner will get impatient and complain," I want a house right now. I saw on tv last week that on Extreme Home Makeover they could build a house in a week and it was beautiful." Little do the fans know that is not the norm. Maybe that house took a lot more resources than they could afford (donations, budget, school reputation). Now the builder has to deal with the homeowner's complaints instead of working on building the house.

Also was this house, built in a week, really that solid? Does it have a strong foundation and basement? Was it built to code (ncaa regulations)? Were the best materials used (players with talent, charater, integrity)? Will the builder bolt and leave you with the mess when house starts falling apart in a year.

Even the best builders have circumstances that they cannot control that can delay progress. Weather, natural disasters, soil conditions, material shoratge or delay etc. (attrition, player grades and discipline issues, vague ncaa rules ala Lucca/Jiri) You can blame the builder for not being fully prepared for all these scenarios, but sometimes even the best laid plans go wrong.

You have to give a builder a reasonable amount of time to get a quality house built especially because when he arrived he had a mess to clean up first.

Now what that reasonble amount of time is, you decide, but it it rarely a good idea to fire a builder midstream because he has not a chance to fully prove himself.

I don't know about you, but I am willing to be patient just a bit longer so that I can enjoy my cyclone mansion when it's done.

**wcamnclone** · 01-29-2009, 09:45 AM

very well said

**cybsball20** · 01-29-2009, 09:46 AM

Not really following... Do you replace the walls in a house ever four years?

**4429 mcc** · 01-29-2009, 09:48 AM

Were going to need a bigger garbage disposal for this thread.

**jtdoyle1** · 01-29-2009, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Not really following... Do you replace the walls in a house ever four years?

No just the carpet

**cyco2000** · 01-29-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Not really following... Do you replace the walls in a house ever four years?

Actually, if you have the best contractor available, you should never know if the walls are being replaced and shouldn't care. If you ask any questions, you are stupid, and should just trust that the contractor is "building the foundation".

It doesn't matter how long it takes, and it would be easier if you stopped asking questions and stop trying to look at the foundation to see if it is really being built to your satisfaction. Just trust the contractor, he's building a foundation, and stop asking questions.

**jimmycy** · 01-29-2009, 10:29 AM

First let me say that I am not giving up on the program or GMAC and i do think we have have to stay the course for at least one more season.

Howeverthe problem I'm having with our program right now is we are losing to teams that we should not be losing to ...rebuilding year or not...we are giving games away to teams who are also rebuilding and are on year one and two of the process.....SDSU is 8-13 with a losing record in the Summit league...there is no excuse for losing that game no matter how you look at it

We also don't seem to be improving as the season goes along..rather we seem to be regressing and the players seem to be pouting ala WJ last year...something is wrong that goes beyond X and O's

**candg4ever** · 01-29-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Not really following... Do you replace the walls in a house ever four years?

Unfortunately, you might have to under certain circumstances. That's the major problem with analogies, though. No matter how accurate and explanatory they are, the parties you're trying to comminicate with have to at least try to understand. Otherwise, it's like speaking Latin to pre-k children, (sorry, yet another analogy).

**candg4ever** · 01-29-2009, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by jtdoyle1

No just the carpet

Now that's funny!!

**PJZ** · 01-29-2009, 11:02 AM

I like the analogy.

What was so wrong with the old house? (Irrelevent, I know)

But really, is it necessary to start over on the new house every year?

**TheHelgo** · 01-29-2009, 11:28 AM

The problem with the builder (coach) is that he is attempting to build our house with a solid foundation, but cutting corners early has forced him to restart the process a couple times (Taylor, and the various bust jucos and patchwork HS players). I would be getting a little angry with my builder if he continued to use cut-rate materials to build my solid foundation. Just saying - a lot of 'materials' gambles were made in the attempt to build the foundation of my house. Hopefully my home builder now understands that I was/am willing to wait for the final product - assuming it was/is built with quality materials....

**cycopath25** · 01-29-2009, 11:44 AM

I would say it's more like remodeling your kitchen. There are a lot of different components in your kitchen that get changed out and matched. (Cupboards have to match the paint, paint has to match the counters, counters have to match the floor, and the floor needs to go with the appliances) You have to make sure everything compliments each other. Right now we have the nice fancy appliances (being Craig), but our countertops don't watch the flooring, and we still have wallpaper covering the walls. God knows wallpaper is out of style. Our problem right in our basketball program is that no is complimenting each other's talents. For example. We all know Lucca can shoot lights out, but no one is getting him open.

**jtdoyle1** · 01-29-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by cycopath25

I would say it's more like remodeling your kitchen. There are a lot of different components in your kitchen that get changed out and matched. (Cupboards have to match the paint, paint has to match the counters, counters have to match the floor, and the floor needs to go with the appliances) You have to make sure everything compliments each other. Right now we have the nice fancy appliances (being Craig), but our countertops don't watch the flooring, and we still have wallpaper covering the walls. God knows wallpaper is out of style. Our problem right in our basketball program is that no is complimenting each other's talents. For example. We all know Lucca can shoot lights out, but no one is getting him open.

But does the carpet match the drapes?

**cycopath25** · 01-29-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by jtdoyle1

But does the carpet match the drapes?

As a girl once responded to me . . . "What if there is no carpet?" So I asked her if she dealt with hardwood!

Anyways . . . Back to the topic at hand . . .