Do Fans Not Pay Attention To Defense?!

**Clones85'** · 02-15-2009, 11:10 AM

I keep hearing people say how Buckley should have played more. I was just wondering if people didn't notice how poor his defense was while he was in the game? He played o lay defense

Not calling the kid out. He is a freshmen and will get better. Just wondering if most fans only pay attention to the offensive side of the ball. Offense wasn't our problem yesterday. Giving up 86 points was

**isuno1fan** · 02-15-2009, 11:12 AM

The argument is that at least he has B12 talent. Might as well let him play and learn at this young age rather than give the minutes to Petey or Haluska.

**Seth** · 02-15-2009, 11:12 AM

How do you get better? For me, I typically get better as I get additional experience. I think a lot of people have come to the conclusion that we're most likely not going to win that game anyway, so why not get someone who could develop into a pretty good player more experience. At some point, you've got to play for the future.

**Clones21** · 02-15-2009, 11:13 AM

Thats exaclty why haluska has been taking all there minutes...He plays outstanding defense and doesnt do crap on offense

**Clones85'** · 02-15-2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

The argument is that at least he has B12 talent. Might as well let him play and learn at this young age rather than give the minutes to Petey or Haluska.

But Petey is clearly better right now. Big 12 talent or not, he is better

**Clones85'** · 02-15-2009, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Seth

How do you get better? For me, I typically get better as I get additional experience. I think a lot of people have come to the conclusion that we're most likely not going to win that game anyway, so why not get someone who could develop into a pretty good player more experience. At some point, you've got to play for the future.

I understand that, but we were down 2 at half yesterday. A win yesterday and we have some serious momentum going towards the rest of the season. I actually was surprised to see him in the game so early

**isuno1fan** · 02-15-2009, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

But Petey is clearly better right now. Big 12 talent or not, he is better

Not sure he was yesterday...he really struggled against the better athletes.

I'm just happy to see DB getting a few more minutes and heck McD even played DB and DG together which I have been begging to see. It only lasted a couple minutes, but I'd still like to see more of those two on the floor at the same time.

**Clones21** · 02-15-2009, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Not sure he was yesterday...he really struggled against the better athletes.

I'm just happy to see DB getting a few more minutes and heck McD even played DB and DG together which I have been begging to see. It only lasted a couple minutes, but I'd still like to see more of those two on the floor at the same time.

I like Boozer and Garret out there..They seem to work together really well and gel well..i wonder if their pretty good friends outside of basketball?

**kingcy** · 02-15-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

Offense wasn't our problem yesterday. Giving up 86 points was

Offense is always the problem with this team. Look at the scores for the conference games, ISU scores between 65-68 points in most of them, that isnt going to win you games. OSU scores in the 80s quite often, they just allow teams to score more points.

**Clones85'** · 02-15-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Not sure he was yesterday...he really struggled against the better athletes.

I'm just happy to see DB getting a few more minutes and heck McD even played DB and DG together which I have been begging to see. It only lasted a couple minutes, but I'd still like to see more of those two on the floor at the same time.

No doubt that it was Petey's worst game of the year. But let's get off the emotial roller coaster please. One game doesn't change who should be playing over another.

**Clones21** · 02-15-2009, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

No doubt that it was Petey's worst game of the year. But let's get off the emotial roller coaster please. One game doesn't change who should be playing over another.

I wish we would of got petey as a freshmen..he would of been twice as good learning young from big 12 coaches..

**Clones85'** · 02-15-2009, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by kingcy

Offense is always the problem with this team. Look at the scores for the conference games, ISU scores between 65-68 points in most of them, that isnt going to win you games. OSU scores in the 80s quite often, they just allow teams to score more points.

We gave up over 50 points in the second half. Yesterday, defense was our problem. It is usually offense but not yesterday. I don't really know why GMAC thought we could go man to man against them

**Clonehomer** · 02-15-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Clones21

Thats exaclty why haluska has been taking all there minutes...He plays outstanding defense and doesnt do crap on offense

Haluska was not playing good defense. Eaton could still get around him whenever he wanted. The only thing that Haluska did was foul him as he ran by. I'm not sure that's much better.

Haluska does play better defense against slower guards, but against an athletic slasher like Eaton he just doesn't have the lateral speed to get in front of the guy. We're playing a zone for a reason. When the guards are driving you've got to try and slow them down and count on help underneath.

**kingcy** · 02-15-2009, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

We gave up over 50 points in the second half. Yesterday, defense was our problem. It is usually offense but not yesterday. I don't really know why GMAC thought we could go man to man against them

The problem was no one could keep up with Eaton. When you play OSU you have to be able to score points, if you cannot do that you will lose.

**Clones85'** · 02-15-2009, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Clonehomer

Haluska was not playing good defense. Eaton could still get around him whenever he wanted. The only thing that Haluska did was foul him as he ran by. I'm not sure that's much better.

Haluska does play better defense against slower guards, but against an athletic slasher like Eaton he just doesn't have the lateral speed to get in front of the guy. We're playing a zone for a reason. When the guards are driving you've got to try and slow them down and count on help underneath.

Eaton drives by pretty much everybody. We have nobody that can guard him, that is why we should have stayed with the zone.

I don't know how people can be critical of Haluska for not being able to guard a quicker than **** PG. Haluska usually guards the 2 or 3 position. He shouldn't be asked to guard another teams PG, but we dont' have anyone else to guard a guy like Eaton.

It was hard for him to guard him too, b/c the refs were calling just about anything all game long