Big news!!!!!

**bawbie** · 02-16-2009, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Final42b

well he will play no matter where he goes and under any scenario. I dont think HB would feel too good about getting somebody forced out of a big 12 program, an opputtunity of a life time.

He'd feel better about getting someone forced out of a ACC program?

**cyclonedcm** · 02-16-2009, 03:32 PM

If Harrison Barnes comes to ISU fine, if he doesn't go to ISU fine...

**Final42b** · 02-16-2009, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by bawbie

He'd feel better about getting someone forced out of a ACC program?

he wont be taking away their scholly like he would under the scenario presented earlier.

**bawbie** · 02-16-2009, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Final42b

he wont be taking away their scholly like he would under the scenario presented earlier.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I kinda doubt you follow the Duke/UNC scholly count as closely as you do ISU.

I'd practically guarantee you that Duke and UNC have offered more schollys in 2010 than they have spots open, and if they have a full load and Barnes says 'yes' to them, they'll make room.

**laytonz** · 02-16-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by TRamp55

Great news. This kid looks like he has a great upside. Long and athletic. Has the height and pretty skilled offensively. He looks like he could even get a little taller and could be a great banger with a few pounds too. I think it would be an excellent get especially with adding a Barnes/Ejim to the mix w/ Dykstra and Kadima. Close the deal GMac.

We don't have enough scholarships for all of them

**erikbj** · 02-16-2009, 03:39 PM

wouldn't just be nice to have the problem of finding a scholarship?

**bawbie** · 02-16-2009, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by laytonz

We don't have enough scholarships for all of them

Does this really have to be beaten to death in 3 threads every day?

I don't know how this can be made any clearer: If HB comes to ISU, there WILL be room for him.

Stop worrying.

**jsb** · 02-16-2009, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

The staff is uncertain about two players...Brackins and Barnes. One thing is for certain, we need a 3. Hate to say it but if Ejim commits and Kelm commits...somebody is going to get booted because HB is always going to have a spot...Right or wrong, that's the reality of the situation.

Do you have an idea on what the chances are that Brackins will be around next year? And is there any truth to the rumor that he will not be playing for free next year even if he has to go to Europe or the D-league. I can't argue if he can get on an NBA roster, but the D-league and Europe will be around in 2 years no matter what.

**Cydkar** · 02-16-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

HB will be an option until the day he signs...

I meant that as he's told the staff "thanks but no thanks". I know we'll make room.

**kg-cyclone** · 02-16-2009, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by jsb

Do you have an idea on what the chances are that Brackins will be around next year? And is there any truth to the rumor that he will not be playing for free next year even if he has to go to Europe or the D-league. I can't argue if he can get on an NBA roster, but the D-league and Europe will be around in 2 years no matter what.

NBA or ISU...My best guess is gone after 3...

**jsb** · 02-16-2009, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by erikbj

wouldn't just be nice to have the problem of finding a scholarship?

No kidding. In the last 10 years, there has probably been at least one player each year that leaves and it is a surprise to most of the fans.

In general, I don't like running players off. But, in general, we are not in a war to win a player against the entire country. And because I think there is a chance that once Harrison finishes his cross country tour of basketball arenas, he will decide that Iowa State is the place for him, we will need to be prepared to make room for him. If we are going to compete against the big boys for him, we have to be prepared to act like the big boys. I don't think Coach Kihatehimsomuch or Roy would worry too much about clearing out a spot for him.

**Clones85'** · 02-16-2009, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by bawbie

Maybe I'm wrong, but I kinda doubt you follow the Duke/UNC scholly count as closely as you do ISU.

I'd practically guarantee you that Duke and UNC have offered more schollys in 2010 than they have spots open, and if they have a full load and Barnes says 'yes' to them, they'll make room.

Duke never uses all of their scholarships. So your guarantee is wrong. UNC has one open scholly for 2010 and it is being saved for Barnes. If Barnes goes elsewhere, they are going after Roscoe Smith

**A-town Cy** · 02-16-2009, 04:24 PM

Here is a Duke vs. ISU stat that doesn't mean anything; we have the same record the last 4 games.

**Aclone** · 02-16-2009, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by clonecard

According to a Jan 13 recruiting report, the only big time winning program interested in him is Marquette. Some MVC teams have offered but that type of recruit has been our problem under GMAC. Dont see this type of kid getting us to the promised land, what dont i grasp?

Oregon State, Iowa and Marquette don't seem like "MVC teams" to me.

Kyle Kelm - Basketball Recruiting

Maybe what you're missing is that at close to 6'10", the kid plays defensive end for his high school football team. Somewhere in here, that should start to sound a little like Justin Hamilton to you. And by the time Kelm steps onto campus, our bigs will likely consist solely of Hamilton, L.A. Pomlee, and classmate Jordan Dykstra. We need another player. Kansas has had duos like this sign, work in the weight room, and play well together, so I'm sure that it could work for us.

Originally Posted by Stewo

Not doubting you, at all, but how do you know this stuff? Aren't you only 16? Again, not trying to insult you, it just blows me away that you always have this kind of info.

I've just gotta point out that Kelm is also about sixteen, and there's social networking sites like Facebook out there...and yes, you can add me if you like.

Originally Posted by Final42b

well he will play no matter where he goes and under any scenario. I dont think HB would feel too good about getting somebody forced out of a big 12 program, an opputtunity of a life time.

What makes you think that someone wouldn't be transferring out by then anyway? Happens all the time. No need to "take" someone's scholarship.

**Clones85'** · 02-16-2009, 04:36 PM

[quote=Aclone;902447]Oregon State, Iowa and Marquette don't seem like "MVC teams" to me.

Kyle Kelm - Basketball Recruiting

Maybe what you're missing is that at close to 6'10", the kid plays defensive end for his high school football team. Somewhere in here, that should start to sound a little like Justin Hamilton to you. And by the time Kelm steps onto campus, our bigs will likely consist solely of Hamilton, L.A. Pomlee, and classmate Jordan Dykstra. We need another player. Kansas has had duos like this sign, work in the weight room, and play well together, so I'm sure that it could work for us. quote]

Kelm is 6'8 and likes to play more outside than inside. There isn't anything about the kid that sounds like Hamilton to me