If you are complaining, you're not a fan

**Cyclone62** · 03-04-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by zmanzbo

Not sure what you mean...

At first you were (sounding) like losing at CU was the bad part. Then you were saying losing badly on the road all the time was the bad part. Those are two entirely different points.

Originally Posted by ETL2424

Good point...losing really gets frustrating. Colorado has had a dismal season, and you'd think that would be one place you could end the road conference losing streak. And many other teams have gone to Boulder and walked out of there with a win.

How many of those teams perform as stunningly as we do at Boulder?

**michaelrr1** · 03-04-2009, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cy Hard

fan

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–noun an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.

No where in the definition of fan do I see negativism, *****&moan, or off with their heads in there....

Keep trying...

Noun1.fanatic - a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm (as for a cause); "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"--Winston Churchill

**LeSchmick** · 03-04-2009, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Cy Hard

fan

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–noun an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.

No where in the definition of fan do I see negativism, *****&moan, or off with their heads in there....

Originally Posted by michaelrr1

Keep trying...

Noun1.fanatic - a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm (as for a cause); "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"--Winston Churchill

Do you guys want to take it outside? Person who reads the most definitions wins.

**CyDude16** · 03-04-2009, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by LeSchmick

Do you guys want to take it outside? Person who reads the most definitions wins.

fail

**Cy Hard** · 03-04-2009, 09:59 PM

Notice how fan and fanatic are different words. Being fanatical about firing someone does not make you a fan of the team you want the person fired from.

**mauiclone** · 03-04-2009, 10:00 PM

If people are still complaining then that is very positive because that means some people still care. I stopped complaining because I stopped caring. With all of the turnover in coaches and players I have lost interest. I had season tickets for 15 years and used to tape every game on the VCR and watch it again. Now I will watch if I don't have anything going on or better to do.

**michaelrr1** · 03-04-2009, 10:02 PM

Fan is short for fanatical.

**zmanzbo** · 03-04-2009, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone62

At first you were (sounding) like losing at CU was the bad part. Then you were saying losing badly on the road all the time was the bad part. Those are two entirely different points.

Nope was agreeing with you on the CU part. Sorry buddy.....

**LeSchmick** · 03-04-2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by CyDude16

fail

Tool. Go write another novel about why we can't criticize ISU Men's basketball at this point.

**Cy Hard** · 03-04-2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by michaelrr1

Fan is short for fanatical.

Yep, that's why they have seperate definitions in the dictionary.

**Cyclone62** · 03-04-2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by zmanzbo

Nope was agreeing with you on the CU part. Sorry buddy.....

Sorry, got you confused with the other guy. Fuzzy memory and whatnot.

**Cyclone62** · 03-04-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by LeSchmick

Tool. Go write another novel about why we can't criticize ISU athletics at this point.

"It wasn't quite the best of times, but it wasn't the worst of times either..."

**bostrem00** · 03-04-2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cy Hard

Since there is no neg rep, and who cares if there was, if you find yourself complaining about coaching or the talent level of the current team then you are not a fan. It's simple why too.

Regardless if you agree with the decisions made during the game or not, or who has been brought in as coach we are not going to fire Mac. Simple as that, we cannot afford to fire another coach and will not do so. The economic downturn our country if facing right now plus the turnover of the football coachin staff there isn't a nickle in the pot to get rid of a coach.

So stop the complaining and focus on rooting your school win or lose! You don't have to support the coach, but ******** about him will get you nowhere. The only person who could complain is a man willing to pay for the change.

So go ahead and rip on. I would think more could be said after a win or loss at this point in the season.

But isn't the fan's/media job to second guess the team? Expectations come with a price, if they aren't met, their will be some ripping of the coaching staff and other offices...see Bill Callahan, Tyrone Willingham and Matt Doherty. The ripping comes from the loyals being dissatisfied with the product being put on the playing field/court.

**gocy444** · 03-04-2009, 10:20 PM

so if im a fan i can no longer complain

**Cy Hard** · 03-04-2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by bostrem00

But isn't the fan's/media job to second guess the team? Expectations come with a price, if they aren't met, their will be some ripping of the coaching staff and other offices...see Bill Callahan, Tyrone Willingham and Matt Doherty. The ripping comes from the loyals being dissatisfied with the product being put on the playing field/court.

See where those programs are now compared to where they were prior to the coaching changes. Winning NC's then a couple of down years, a couple of COACHING CHANGES later and mediocrity has set in. Not unlike our mens BBall program now. Not gonna change the inevitable bumps in the road back to success. Patience is a virtue and pride is a sin.